Isaac Teel on Drake's Fake Abs, NYC Pizza & Why Single Men Need to Smell Better

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Do you miss New York?
I miss aspects of it.

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I miss my family. I miss the pizza.
I miss the bagels. I miss the pasta.

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If you could bring one thing
from New York to Denver,

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what would you bring? Pizza. Duh.
Do you think the pizza here is

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as bad as they say it is? Yes.
Or do I just not mind?

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Bad pizza? It doesn't.
It doesn't rise like New York.

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And the dough is completely
different.

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Do we need more Italians here?
I don't even know because there's

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dope Mexicans making fire pizza
in New York. Yeah, that's true.

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But also, they might have
learned it from the Italians.

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Maybe you need Italians there at
some point.

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At some point, but I don't know.
I think you can do it without them.

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Do you think that's the first
time anyone's ever said.

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Do you think we need more
Italians here? Maybe. Maybe.

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We love our Italians.
I grew up Catholic. Absolutely.

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All my friends are black Italian.
Hey, everybody. Nick here. No, Andy.

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This week he's in Nashville
making yet another album.

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He makes an album every six
weeks now.

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He's inevitable,
much like AI is inevitable.

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And that's why I'm going to get
into this Velvet Sundown thing.

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And nobody will shut up about lately.
I'm going to look right now,

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actually. Let's see how many.
They're up to 1.2 million

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monthly listeners.
And if you're not familiar with

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Velvet Sundown, also,
you can pre-save their album.

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I think it's funny.
They're completely I created.

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We can't play the music on here,
can we?

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Do you think we'd probably get
hit with, like,

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a drone strike or whatever?
Daniel Elk's gonna, you know,

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Daniel Elk, the owner of Spotify,
invest like, billions of dollars

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into, like, defense corporations.
And people are mad at him for making

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letting elevator music made by
robots come onto his his thing.

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Look. I don't know, man.
I don't know about I it's like I

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don't think it's going to affect
like for Andy, like Andy Frasco,

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for example.
Let's use him since you all know

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who he is.
I don't think I will affect Andy

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Frasco.
Do you know what I mean by that?

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Like, I think truly creative
people with their own personality

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are not going to get hit by, uh,
by this bullshit.

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I wish I could play it for you,
but we can't.

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But it's like, basically sounds
like 70s music, right?

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Sounds like khruangbin mixed
with like. Right.

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I think it's like a little bit crunk.
Been mixed with, like,

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70s vibes with like the worst vocals.
They even have like fake pictures of

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the guys and they kind of look like,
I like they look like the human

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version, like, there's these
people anyway that are I anyway,

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those humans, those people in LA,
they'll just like grow their hair

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out and now they're a songwriter.
They're basically I anyway,

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they're doing the same thing this,
this program is doing where it's just

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copying all the music ever made and
whittling it down into something

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digestible so it can be played in
the background at Jersey Mike's,

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you know what I mean?
While you get a Philly cheesesteak.

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And that's why, I don't know,
it's like you can get as mad as

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you want at this stuff instead
of the defense contractor thing.

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Uh, but the thing is, it's not
going anywhere. I is inevitable.

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It's like, how were you?
How old were you when the

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internet first came out?
Were you old enough to remember

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people resisting it, talking to Jack,
our producer, because he's the only

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other person here? I'm lonely.
Only I'm all by myself and I'm

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lonely.
My girlfriend's out of town and

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playing video games and making clips.
Um, yeah. Like it's like that.

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It's like when the internet
first came out, no one, like,

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everybody thought it was going
to go away in two years,

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or cable TV or fucking avocado
toast or the self-checkout or

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Andy Cohen or fucking the McRib.
You know what I mean?

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It's like, you cannot like this
thing all you want, but people are

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using it. It's not going away.
It's just going to be more. So.

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I think, uh,
what we should do with the AI

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thing is just shut up about it.
I think that's the best way we

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can fight.
This is everybody just shut up

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about it.
And if you don't like it,

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don't engage with it.
I do have a theory that and this is

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probably verifiable, that most of
these monthly listeners are digital

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themselves. Right. And it's like.
That's such a weird concept.

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It's like that data internet thing
where it's like, so it's fake

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accounts listening to fake music.
So it's just like this circle of

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things that don't exist or are
created by AI.

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But how is that going to make money?
Because like what?

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Where's the money from the bots
coming?

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Like at some point they're not going
to make money off that because a bot

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doesn't generate probably enough
Spotify streams to pay for itself,

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right? So what's going to.
So it's kind of like I'm a used

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to be a freelance copywriter.
I still do it sometimes too.

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And there's been a big, uh,
thing with AI and copywriting too,

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where I sort of got rid of the
freelance copywriter because all

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these websites are using fake
things to write their paragraph

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blog for them, but they're
starting to realize that that

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stuff doesn't get any engagement.
And the only people reading that

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stuff is other bots.
So they're going back to using

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humans again.
And I think that's what's going

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to happen with this music.
And even if it doesn't,

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this music kind of sucks anyway.
It's like the worst kind of music,

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which is like not bad music.
You would think that bad music's the

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worst kind of music, but it's not.
It's like it's kind of why

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everybody used to make fun of
Nickelback for a long time.

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Like they could basically be AI,
you know what I'm saying?

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Or like some band like that.
Imagine like, oh,

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we talk about Imagine Dragons.
Isaac's gonna be on later.

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Uh, one of my best friends here in,
uh, Denver.

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Great drummer, great musician,
and a good guy.

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Um, we got into talking about Imagine
Dragons and how basic and boring they

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are and stuff like that, and it's
kind of the same thing. It's like.

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So like some Mormon gets to make
$10 million instead of an IT guy.

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That's basically the difference here
with I like I just think that like,

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humans are already kind of doing
this anyway.

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And the truly creative,
great musicians.

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Ozzy Osbourne, for example,
he just had his farewell concert.

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There's not going to like,
you can't recreate Ozzy Osbourne,

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you can't recreate Limp Bizkit,
you can't recreate, uh, any,

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like, any jazz.
Well, maybe some shitty jazz,

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maybe some smooth jazz.
The Weather Channel, jazz, even some

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of that, though you can't recreate.
Like, I can only make stuff off

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what it already knows about.
It can't create new things.

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So I think it's like something
not to be too worried about.

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And I also don't think these bands
are going to make any money because

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of what I talked about earlier
with the bots. So I don't know.

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That's my take on I. Ah, shit.
Um. Oh, yeah.

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My other thing I want to talk about.
Oh, yeah, we got into that

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because the band names thing that
video I had with the band names,

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and, uh, I was thinking about
Phish and how their band,

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they were in town last weekend,
and I was thinking about how they

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were in town and how they're sort of
like, we were texting about this,

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about the how they're the Jeff
Goldblum of music.

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So like, I was thinking about this,
like how they were in town and how

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they still have all these fans,
even though they're kind of niche.

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They've never really been on TV.
They they have their, you know,

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a very niche audience,
but they're creative and like,

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that's another band you couldn't
recreate with Phish.

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That could never happen.
You can't make a guy in a dress on I.

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But like, there I was thinking about
like, what is the actor equivalent?

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I already told you,
but the actor equivalent of Phish.

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And I was thinking,
it's got to be a dude, right?

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Because they're dude,
it's a guy music.

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It can't be a woman. The woman.
The women know it's games are for or

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for dudes, and this guy might be a
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an actor, but he is very talented.
And I think it's Jeff Goldblum,

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right?
I think Jeff Goldblum is the I guess

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who was first probably fish, right?
They started in the early 80s,

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I don't know,
maybe around the same time.

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So they are the like the equivalent
of each other as an actor.

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He's like, you know,
he's got his own unique fan base.

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He's had a really high peak,
you know, like Jurassic.

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He's in one of the biggest
movies ever, Jurassic Park.

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He's got some famous lines.
Everybody's kind of heard of

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Jeff Goldblum, but like,
he's not Brad Pitt or anything,

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you know what I mean?
Like, who's Brad Pitt?

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Who Brad Pitt be?
He'd be like the Eagles,

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you know what I mean?
Good looking, good at what he does.

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Easy to pilot. Incredibly famous.
Will probably still be watching his

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movies in 200 years. Uh, Radiohead.
Who do you think Radiohead is?

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Adam Driver?
That's a good one, right?

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Kind of mysterious.
Not sort of like dark,

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but also can play anything.
Some of this stuff sucks.

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Some of it's really good.
Which I kind of think about

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Radiohead to, you know,
like Radiohead's either, like they're

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kind of like Pink Floyd for me,
where it's like, hey, this is either

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the best thing I've ever heard
in my life or this is garbage,

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which is actually a good thing.
Tool. I have a girl for this one.

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Toni Collette. Right.
What do you think?

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Uh, what about, uh, Limp Bizkit?
I couldn't think of one for them.

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You need someone who's, like, trashy.
This would be a good voicemail call.

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You guys call me in, and you tell me.
Give me a call on the voicemail line.

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It's in the description.
Tell me who you think the actor

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equivalent of Limp Bizkit is, or just
really any other any other band?

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I haven't talked to Andy in like
a while, so I was going to give

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his manager a call,
see what he's up to, because I

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know he talks to him every day.
Do you think he'll answer for you?

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Probably not.
I think either, probably not.

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Or definitely because he might.
I never call him.

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So nothing's ever wrong.
I gotta find him here. Hold on.

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Matt. I doubt he answers.

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I should just call a bunch of people
and see if anyone answers your call.

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Nope. All right, let me see.
Who should I call next?

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Oh, I know who I want to call.
It'd be good to get, like,

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a supercut of me just having no one.
No one answering.

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We can, like, cut this down a little
bit, too. I'm gonna call Barbara.

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It's a supercut of me calling
people and then not answering.

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Who shot. Barber? It's Nick.
You're on the podcast.

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Oh my God, Gerlach.
It's just me, though.

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No, Andy,
I was just talking to myself.

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I'm just in this room talking to
myself right now, and I was.

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I was talking about that.
Have you heard of this new age band,

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Velvet Sundown?
How could you not hear about it?

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They spent $1 billion advertising it.
Well, I don't know.

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You just had a baby.
I don't know how online you are

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lately. Literally, it was everywhere.
They're like, oh my, everyone.

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And it's all like.
Like Rick Beato from YouTube and

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stuff, like, all like just
randomly deciding to talk about

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this band all at the same time.
Ooh, conspiracy theory.

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Barber, what do you think about it?
And they're all getting paid to

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hate on it, but talk about how
inevitable it is. Mhm.

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It's exactly what I was just doing.
Fuck I need to get paid for this.

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You should get paid for that.
Well, it is inevitable, though,

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don't you think?
No, I don't actually think it's

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inevitable.
I think that, uh, that music serves,

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like, a very social purpose.
Like Won't Get Fooled Again.

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It was, like,
the biggest song of the 90s.

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I can't get no satisfaction to sex
because there's all these bands

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that serve as pivotal roles in the
history of the music business,

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and they want to remove all that.
So because they don't want to pay

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those people, that's all it is.
And do you think computers are

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going to come up with that now?
No, that's actually I kind of said

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that to me. And Jack were talking.
We were saying. Formed in 1961.

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I was made in 1961.
We still be listening to Elvis today.

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Different forms of Elvis.
Right, right, right. But, like.

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Don't you think it'll just replace,
like, background music and ads

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and shit like that?
It'll be like just the new

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placeholder music.
But, I mean, you can do that.

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You can make that kind of music with
with using human ingredients. Right.

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But it's cheaper to do it with AI.
AI that will help you organize that.

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It'll help you project manage that
and help you put your beats together.

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But the samples and the playing
and stuff is all human.

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So maybe DJs will be replaced by AI,
except for the really good ones.

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Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know, the DJ world is weird.

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It's like, do they want like
really hot girls doing the stuff

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or do they want. Yeah.
Doing it or you know, do they,

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do they want to like really
expressive people? It's weird.

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It is kind of it's weird.
It reminds me of like,

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the early internet, you know.
It's just it's just like there's

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a certain punk, um, aspect of,
I mean, I guess the I could, like,

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go around Reddit and look for
people complaining and make music

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about that, you know, along the
lines of people complaining. Yeah.

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Like they can figure out how to make,
like revolutionary music with I

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probably I don't know why they
wouldn't be able to do that,

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but I don't think.
I don't think the point of AI is

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to get us, you know, better music.
I don't think it is either. No.

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It's just it's like the people who,
you know, everybody's on Spotify and

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they're just like, happy on Spotify.
And Spotify is going to take all

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that money that they get from people
and say, how do we spend less?

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And they've already like,
cut everybody's streaming fees down

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to really small small amounts. Right.
And they're getting so much pushback

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every time they lower streaming
fees that they just probably think

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that lowering streaming fees
further isn't an option for them.

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Right. And, you know.
Speaking of DJs,

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do you think that I can replace Mark
Brownstein as a DJ? I don't think.

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I could get his voice right on the
microphone when he hits the crowd.

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Hey, everybody, I'm ChatGPT 4.5.
All right. I love this song.

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Let's see your hands in the air.
Where are you right now?

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Are you on the road?
Uh, we're playing in the round

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tonight in Cape Cod.
And the round so people can see your

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butt. Yeah. On a spinning stage.
I don't think I like that.

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I feel very exposed with people
behind me to. I don't like that.

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It's a little weird.
It definitely like.

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It definitely hits your, like,
balance.

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You get used to it, but, like,
you can't move around too much on

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stage because you could, like, fly
off the edge of the stage by mistake.

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That'd be hilarious, actually.
The whole thing is moving.

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Everything's moving.
So you, like, walk towards something,

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and then by the time you get there,
it's moved. So you have to like.

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Oh, weird.
You you have to hope that your

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body adjusts,
makes a little micro adjustments.

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But I was just out there,
and sometimes it doesn't.

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Sometimes you're like, in it,
you do what you normally do and then

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you end up walking off the stage.
Oh my God. We'll see what happens.

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That's crazy.
But you can sell more tickets.

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You guys aren't going to follow
what everybody else,

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every other bands doing.
And fire your drummer. Are you?

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Or get get a new drummer. Right.
You guys are good with Alan for

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a while.
It seems like a pretty hip thing

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to do.
I mean,

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definitely everybody's doing it.
Varying style to get a new

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drummer right now.
It's like bell bottoms. Yeah.

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I mean, bell bottoms will come back,
you know? Yeah, they have to.

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I will probably see them in a,
you know, rolling Stone ad about

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latest fashions for 1978,
coming back in 1998.

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And then they'll make it come
back again. Yeah. Yeah.

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I'm old drummers make a comeback
though.

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Like I don't see any of these bands
getting their original drummers

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and putting them back in the band.
No, they're not doing that,

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are they? Who else just quit?
The guy just quit Pearl jam.

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Matt Cameron just quit Pearl jam.
Umphrey's got a new drummer,

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somebody else.
Goose has a new one every six months.

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Did, um, did the Metallica bass
player quit and then they put

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him back in? Probably.
Who knows who can keep up with

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those crazy guys?
What town are you in? You said.

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Cape Cod. Oh, I like Cape Cod.
It's like rich white trash.

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You know what I mean? It's actually.
It's a good way to describe it.

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Yeah. It's like.
Yeah,

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it's like they kind of party still.
They have, like, a a bad sunburn,

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like all the time. You and I.
White trash though. I'm white trash.

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I don't think you are.
I don't think you're white trash.

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I think you're something else.
I'm definitely white trash.

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You're probably more like I don't
know. I don't know what you are.

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Maybe an orb of light or spirit.
I'm an orb of light, I like that,

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yeah. You're not, I don't think.
I don't think you're real.

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I don't I'm not still not fully
convinced you exist either.

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Mine? Hell, yeah.
Dude, even when you had a second kid.

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What about when you had kids that you
weren't like? Man, maybe I do exist.

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No, no, no, it doesn't, because the
kids are just part of your your,

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like, like, mental arrangement,
you know? Yeah.

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So maybe you're like,
they don't exist either.

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One thing about having kids, you,
after a couple of years when they've

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been around for a couple of years and
they don't leave, they never leave,

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right? They're always there.
Yeah yeah. Yeah. Yeah yeah.

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Like a like when you get Lyme
disease.

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I'll see you in a month, right.
They're always there and always like,

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hang out with me. Hang out with me.
After a while. You do.

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You can't imagine what life was
like without them. Interesting.

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Even though it's only been a few
years. Yeah, yeah.

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Like if I think about when I was 20,
I'm like, where was River when I

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was 20? Oh, yeah. Yeah, dude.
Yeah. It's weird.

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I'm like that with tequila. Yeah.
Anyway, you got a message for

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these listeners before you go.
Any motivation? Any.

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If we're going to talk about tequila,
I think, you know, 1 or 2 shots

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of tequila is a good thing.
That's good, I like that.

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My message for your listeners.
Couple shots.

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If you go to six, you know,
you might need a ride home.

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Yeah, you might need a ride home.
I gotta grab an Uber. All right.

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All right, Barbara,
I'll let you get back to your show.

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Thanks for helping me kill
eight minutes later. Bye.

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I love hanging with you guys.
Let's do it again. Yeah.

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Hit me up when you're in town in
September from Mishawaka.

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All right. Peace. Yeah. Later.
There you go, Barber.

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He always has a.
I like him because, uh,

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he always has, like,
an opinion where we kind of agree,

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but then he'll, like, go to the left,
like he's not afraid to disagree

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with you, which I like. Okay.
Matt told me to call him back.

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I like, tell him they're on the
podcast right away.

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They don't expect that from me.
What's up?

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Matt, you're on the podcast.
It's Nick. Oh, God. What's up?

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Andy's not here, though.
It's just me and you. Buddy.

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Let's talk.
Yeah, I want to talk to you

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without Andy around, and, uh,
you know, somewhere private,

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like a recorded podcast.
I haven't talked to him this week.

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How are things going in the Frasco
camp? Everything's good. Yeah, I.

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Got some shows, lots of music being
made. Lots of lots of things.

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It's good. Yeah.
Do you think he's doing a good job?

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Do you think he's behaving
himself in Nashville right now?

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Uh, he's writing songs, I don't know.
You think he's being a good boy?

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Uh, I haven't asked that question,
and I don't want to know.

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Oh, yeah, it's kind of a don't ask,
don't tell thing with Andy, huh?

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Correct.
Unless I get a call from the police.

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It's, uh. Everything's okay.
Are you going to come to our show?

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Yes. He's coming. Everybody.
Levitt. August 2nd. Andy. Frasco.

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I heard the opener is killing.
Killing the best thing you've

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ever heard. The Colts.
They're really good. They're.

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No, they're not as not probably
not as good as Andy.

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But we're pretty good.
It's really good.

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Is there anything I should be doing
different for this podcast that I

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can improve without Andy around
to filter it? No, I think, uh.

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I'm a great co-host.
Calling people and putting them

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on the spot.
It makes everyone feel super

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welcome and inviting.
It's great. Yeah, it's kind of.

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It's kind of fun to know you're
being recorded, huh?

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Uh, this will live in podcast
land forever, so. I'm so stoked.

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It's actually it's been recorded
twice because the FBI has my

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phone tapped too.
So this is going out everywhere.

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All right, so do you have any, uh.
I'm gonna I'm gonna make you do

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the thing Andy does.
Do you have any motivation for

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everybody this week?
Um, just work hard and keep a

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positive attitude. Oh my. God.
That's why you're a manager and not

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an artist. I could have done that.
Come on, try again. I'm not.

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I'm not as creative as you guys are.
That's true.

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I've been sending emails all day,
so my brain is fried. Yeah.

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That's good, that's good.
All right, well, I'll let you go.

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I just wanted to see if if if
Andy's in trouble or anything.

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I haven't talked to him this week.
He's not in trouble. No hot.

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Goss. He's making.
He's making music, which is a good

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thing. Yeah, he's good at it.
Yes. Unfortunately.

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All right, well, I'll let you go.
Bye bye. All right.

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Work hard and be good to people and
be. I don't know, man. That's stupid.

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What's some better motivation
this week? Um. Don't follow.

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I shit online unless you really
want to care.

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If you like it, who gives a shit?
Fucking listen to it.

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Everybody just shut up about it.
I do like his theory about them

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paying to advertise it,
because it's like no press or bad

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press can be good press, you know?
But then at the same time, I wonder,

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I just don't see how this is going to
make money long term, I don't know.

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Like I said, this is what
happens when you have it.

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Guys running the music industry.
Anyway, we got Isaac up next for you.

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Me and my friend Isaac.
It's very funny.

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We have a lot of good, good time.
We talk about Drake and religion and

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how single men need to smell better.
Anything else we touched on?

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I can entice them with.
Oh, that's pretty good stuff.

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Stick around. Bye, Andy.
I'll be back next week. I love you.

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World saving podcast listeners.
I'm sorry. Yo, yo, Andy's not here.

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He's even. Where is he right now?
Probably Nashville.

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He's saving the world.
He's doing something cool on

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Instagram with his cool friends,
making songs that hopefully

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someone will buy. Anyway.
So I have a special sitting

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guest here today drummer,
musician, drummer and musician.

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Because not all drummers are
musicians. This is very true.

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And not all musicians are drummers,
but they all think they are.

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They all want to be.
Singer fragrance guy. Hey what's up?

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And our resident black correspondent,
Isaac.

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Tell everybody give it up for Isaac.
Wait, which one's the. Nope.

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Wrong. I'll take that.
I don't need the applause.

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Give me the horn.
I don't know the buttons.

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What's up man? How you doing?
You getting ready to do a gig?

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So we had to squeeze you in here.
I appreciate the squeeze, man.

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I'm feeling great. Feeling good?
Yeah. You just.

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You just got back from New York.
I did.

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I was writing some music with the
Talk Boys and Kanika Moore and Lyle

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Divinsky. That's a fun group, man.
Yeah, it's a good time.

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Lyle's always smiling.
I wonder what he's hiding under

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there.
I don't think he's hiding anything.

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I think he's a genuinely happy dude.
Well, I wonder what that's like.

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It's a little scary sometimes, but,
I mean, I enjoy the positivity.

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What do you think about the, uh,
this whole Mike Brown hiring?

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Are you into. It?
I am into it because I feel.

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Like I know you can't.
You probably can't talk about it too

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much here. We got to be careful.
No no, no. But we he brings winning.

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And so, you know, I'm I'm here for
winning. We need a winning culture.

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We also need a coach who's
offensively minded because our

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last he's.
Basically the opposite of Tom

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Thibodeau.
Pretty much we're getting right

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into sports. Yeah let's go.
Do you miss. New York.

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I miss aspects of it I miss my
family. I miss the pizza.

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I miss the bagels. I miss the pasta.
What how long have you been in

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Denver now? Six years. Yeah.
You moved here before Covid, right?

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Yeah, but I was in New York when
Covid hit and they shut everything

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down. Oh, wow. It was intense.
Ghost town, New York. Oh my God.

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Scary. Really. Some I am legend type.
If you could bring one thing

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from New York to Denver,
what would you bring? Pizza. Duh.

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Do you think the pizza here is
as bad as they say it is? Yes.

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Or do I just not mind bad pizza?
It doesn't.

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It doesn't rise like New York and
the dough is completely different.

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Do we need more Italians here?
I don't even know because there's

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dope Mexicans making fire pizza
in New York. Yeah, that's true.

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But also, they might have
learned it from the Italians.

420
00:23:34,850 --> 00:23:36,570
Maybe you need Italians there at
some point.

421
00:23:36,610 --> 00:23:38,850
At some point, but I don't know.
I think you can do it without them.

422
00:23:38,850 --> 00:23:40,450
Do you think that's the first
time anyone's ever said.

423
00:23:40,450 --> 00:23:50,290
Do you think we need more Italians
here? Maybe. Just kidding.

424
00:23:50,330 --> 00:23:52,330
We love our Italians.
I grew up Catholic. Absolutely.

425
00:23:52,330 --> 00:23:56,410
All my friends.
Are black Italian. I mean, yeah.

426
00:23:57,690 --> 00:23:59,530
Did you bring your fragrances
with you? I want to talk about.

427
00:23:59,570 --> 00:24:03,610
I sure did. Uh, what do you got?
I tell Isaac is like, I got him

428
00:24:03,610 --> 00:24:06,690
on here. I want him to promote.
He's trying to make dollars out

429
00:24:06,690 --> 00:24:09,930
of scents. Yeah.
So I have a new fragrance line

430
00:24:09,930 --> 00:24:12,010
called Forever Sinclair.
That's the brand name.

431
00:24:12,170 --> 00:24:16,450
Um, and it's literally just a
perfect marriage of essential

432
00:24:16,450 --> 00:24:21,050
oils and Egyptian oils.
So I have a guy in New York who

433
00:24:21,210 --> 00:24:25,450
gets Egyptian oils, literally just
straight from Egypt. What would.

434
00:24:25,450 --> 00:24:28,130
Hope so? Imported into New York.
What if they're not from Egypt?

435
00:24:28,130 --> 00:24:30,440
I guess that people lie all the time.
I mean, people lie all the time.

436
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,880
I mean, like, I'm from Zimbabwe
and it could be anything,

437
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,200
but I mean. MAGA. Hats.
I've been making fragrances for

438
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,720
myself for at least the past 20
years. Isaac does.

439
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,000
You can't tell right now, but you
can. He smells good all the time.

440
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,920
I try to, you know, there's there's
just people out here that don't even

441
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,920
recognize that they don't smell good.
I feel like I smell pretty good.

442
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,360
Yeah, I used I'm not a big Cologne,
dude. I do buy expensive soaps.

443
00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:55,880
But the thing is about Cologne is
there's like. Or whatever it is.

444
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,200
Four different alcohols for
every Cologne.

445
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,240
So anytime you walk in a American
Eagle or Sephora, it's the same

446
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,920
smell. It's all the same stuff.
And that's why I never thought

447
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:10,720
about that. No alcohol, no alcohol.
It's a perfect marriage. Exactly.

448
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,080
So you can drink it and drive I
forever. Sinclair's the name.

449
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,600
I have 13 signature scents,
which is pretty crazy.

450
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,480
Well, how long does it take to.
How did you get into this?

451
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,760
First of all?
Well, I was living in Bed-Stuy,

452
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,510
Brooklyn, and I stumbled upon
this little shop, this little

453
00:25:28,550 --> 00:25:31,630
mom and pop shop, and this guy
had a bunch of oils in his back,

454
00:25:31,630 --> 00:25:34,270
but I wasn't going there for oils.
I was going there for incense.

455
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:36,510
And he was like,
you should smell this.

456
00:25:36,510 --> 00:25:38,070
And I was like, oh, cool,
it smells great.

457
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:41,550
And then I got two scents from
him that I loved and wore for

458
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:44,270
like 15 years.
And then I was like, all right,

459
00:25:44,270 --> 00:25:47,190
finally you got to give me a crash
course on all of these scents.

460
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:50,670
And I spent like an hour and change
with him, and he closed the store

461
00:25:50,670 --> 00:25:54,470
for me, which is kind of crazy.
He was just like, wow, my friend.

462
00:25:56,790 --> 00:25:59,910
He's a he's a good dude.
But I gave him my album and he

463
00:25:59,910 --> 00:26:01,670
was just so ecstatic.
He was like, man,

464
00:26:02,270 --> 00:26:05,030
I love your music. It's so good.
And then he closed the store and

465
00:26:05,030 --> 00:26:08,710
gave me rundowns of like almost
every oil there.

466
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:11,350
And I was like, okay, well, so.
He's like, is he like old?

467
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:14,590
He's older. He's like in his 70s.
He's like a sensei of sense.

468
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:17,310
Sense. Oh, a sensei.
You know, that's not the first

469
00:26:17,310 --> 00:26:19,950
time I heard that. Oh, damn it.
I thought I was clever.

470
00:26:19,950 --> 00:26:22,070
I'm usually pretty clever.
But I might have to roll with it.

471
00:26:22,110 --> 00:26:24,030
It's.
Damn it, it's good, it's good, but.

472
00:26:24,030 --> 00:26:30,740
Yeah, I mean, I honestly love tying
in. I'm huge on on on like sense.

473
00:26:30,780 --> 00:26:33,660
Are they. Unisex?
I have a they are unisex. Um.

474
00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:37,140
And you can wear I mean, I've,
I have things that I've put on

475
00:26:37,180 --> 00:26:41,340
that smell different on everyone.
So, you know, I could roll the

476
00:26:41,340 --> 00:26:44,700
same roll on you and on myself,
and it'll smell different.

477
00:26:44,780 --> 00:26:48,140
That's not a thing with Cologne.
No, it's because of the alcohol.

478
00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:51,300
The alcohol reacts to alcohol.
Yeah, it's. It's weird.

479
00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:53,420
So everybody's pheromones.
Some people, it makes them smell bad.

480
00:26:53,420 --> 00:26:56,740
Some people it makes them leave
their family. Some.

481
00:26:57,020 --> 00:26:59,900
Some things that makes people cheat.
Yeah. It makes you drink. Yeah.

482
00:26:59,940 --> 00:27:02,220
Sometimes you end up in prison.
Sometimes you smell good,

483
00:27:02,260 --> 00:27:04,820
though. Exactly, exactly.
So, I mean, I love it,

484
00:27:04,820 --> 00:27:07,220
I really enjoy it.
And it's great because the best

485
00:27:07,220 --> 00:27:10,180
part about it is like, not even
necessarily the signature scents.

486
00:27:10,180 --> 00:27:13,980
It's the when I get the emails or
text messages or DMs that say,

487
00:27:13,980 --> 00:27:19,100
hey, can you replicate this?
Or I want to smell like the wood

488
00:27:19,140 --> 00:27:25,260
from Toy Story. Yeah.
The baseboards in Toy Story. Exactly.

489
00:27:25,260 --> 00:27:28,690
So that's that's the most fun
part for me because I get to now

490
00:27:29,010 --> 00:27:32,330
have homework for my nose.
Homework for your nose? Yeah.

491
00:27:32,890 --> 00:27:34,610
That's, uh,
there's people in Denver that be

492
00:27:34,610 --> 00:27:36,930
doing homework for their nose.
Yeah. I mean, it's extracurricular.

493
00:27:36,930 --> 00:27:38,690
It means a little something.
Yeah. They're not doing homework.

494
00:27:38,730 --> 00:27:41,050
They're doing extracurricular.
After school activities.

495
00:27:41,050 --> 00:27:44,610
If you sometimes during school
activities, never once. Hello.

496
00:27:44,650 --> 00:27:50,010
Bathrooms at lock. Sometimes.
Oh, man. So what's your like?

497
00:27:50,010 --> 00:27:52,210
What do you think?
Uh, we have a lot of single male

498
00:27:52,210 --> 00:27:53,930
listeners out there.
Give them a pitch on why they

499
00:27:53,930 --> 00:27:57,250
should use this to smell better.
Well, we're trying to get people laid

500
00:27:57,250 --> 00:28:02,650
on this podcast. I would say, for.
Right, Jack. For both ladies and men.

501
00:28:02,690 --> 00:28:07,250
I think that taking care of
yourself outside of fragrances.

502
00:28:07,490 --> 00:28:09,090
They already know how to get.
You know what I mean?

503
00:28:09,090 --> 00:28:10,690
They're better with it.
They don't, though,

504
00:28:10,730 --> 00:28:12,810
because girls don't really?
You're saying you're single?

505
00:28:12,810 --> 00:28:15,810
I guess you know better than I.
Um. I like this, girls.

506
00:28:15,930 --> 00:28:18,130
What do you mean? Girls don't have.
Girls don't have game. They.

507
00:28:18,130 --> 00:28:21,810
They wait for guys to either.
We're generalizing here.

508
00:28:21,850 --> 00:28:23,690
Don't get mad.
Yeah, we're generalizing here.

509
00:28:23,690 --> 00:28:26,480
I would say the majority of
girls don't have game.

510
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,880
If they really are interested in you,
they will put themselves in a

511
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,240
position to be seen.
And that's the game. That's the game.

512
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,560
So either you pay attention to
the signs.

513
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,760
Men are really bad at that, I think.
Yeah, because we're not locked in.

514
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,000
But like then three years later
you'll be sitting there like

515
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,760
reading or watching a TV show
and you're like.

516
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,680
Damn it, remember that girl that
gave me the eyes at the airport?

517
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,680
Yeah. You're like. Oh. Shit. That's.
She didn't want to watch a movie.

518
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,680
I gotta go to Craigslist for
casual encounters.

519
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:58,000
I should have told her I already
seen Creed two. Damn it. Oh my gosh.

520
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,120
But honestly, yeah, I don't know.
So girls don't have game.

521
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,440
But you could argue that guys
don't have game anymore either.

522
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,520
Oh yeah, for.
Our grandfathers they had game.

523
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,880
They would stalk a woman and stalk
her and go to her workplace and

524
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,640
make himself the only man available
to her until they said yes.

525
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,480
And they also didn't have social
media to distract her. Exactly.

526
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,400
Yeah. That's true. So there's that.
That's the the paradox of too many

527
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,920
options. Yeah. Overall hygiene.
Take care of yourself, people.

528
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,590
People notice that shit.
Please bathe. Please moisturize.

529
00:29:24,590 --> 00:29:29,150
Especially here in Colorado.
Please, please. Yeah. White people.

530
00:29:29,150 --> 00:29:31,950
You can get ashy, too. All right.
Listen, you totally can.

531
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:34,790
You totally can. You can crack.
And, you know,

532
00:29:34,830 --> 00:29:38,190
they say this term black don't crack,
but there's a contingency.

533
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:41,790
You got to take care of it.
Yeah. It could. It could easily.

534
00:29:41,910 --> 00:29:45,070
Be Morgan Freeman. No, listen.
He's looked 70 since he was 30.

535
00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:49,270
I love. Morgan. But he. Has.
He has he has been. He's been 70.

536
00:29:49,310 --> 00:29:52,350
Since he's been 76.
87 since lean on me. The first.

537
00:29:52,350 --> 00:29:56,590
Bush. Yeah. The first Bush movie.
Or. Presidency? He's been.

538
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:59,590
That's funny. All right. So? So.
Yeah. So pitch man. Why?

539
00:29:59,590 --> 00:30:02,790
They should smell good. So, guys.
We don't have any female listeners.

540
00:30:02,790 --> 00:30:05,950
I'm just kidding. That's a shame.
No, we do, actually. We do.

541
00:30:06,150 --> 00:30:09,470
Fellas, take care of yourself.
Like, Andy, you know, it shows when

542
00:30:09,470 --> 00:30:12,710
you take care of yourself. Honestly.
And that's the most attractive thing.

543
00:30:12,750 --> 00:30:15,310
It's not necessarily having a
game and going and having a line

544
00:30:15,310 --> 00:30:17,750
that you talk to a girl,
they could see it on you.

545
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:20,070
So if you take care of yourself,
you have the love for yourself.

546
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:22,860
They're going to want to love the
love that you have for yourself.

547
00:30:24,260 --> 00:30:26,740
I gave you that one for free.
I like that this is from a man

548
00:30:26,740 --> 00:30:30,140
that has a lot of game.
I used to play basketball in

549
00:30:30,140 --> 00:30:33,860
high school, and I'm 40 now,
and I. You're 40. I am.

550
00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:38,340
When's your birthday? April 23rd.
Oh, shit. 85. 40s are great.

551
00:30:39,020 --> 00:30:41,140
I don't know about them yet,
I mean. Oh, you'll be fine.

552
00:30:41,180 --> 00:30:46,220
Fresh couple months in.
You ain't got no kids. Nah, nah.

553
00:30:46,260 --> 00:30:49,100
Nothing tying you. Down.
I got sneakers and I got drums.

554
00:30:49,220 --> 00:30:53,940
Those are my kids.
Those are my kids. I feel like.

555
00:30:53,940 --> 00:30:56,980
A sneaker thing's, like,
kind of died off a little bit.

556
00:30:57,020 --> 00:30:59,140
You know what I'm talking about.
It's weird because there's such

557
00:30:59,140 --> 00:31:02,180
hype culture when it comes.
Hype culture in general actually is

558
00:31:02,180 --> 00:31:04,300
dying off. Like the thought of God.
Honestly, you're.

559
00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:06,780
Not seeing, like,
supreme hoodies like you used.

560
00:31:06,820 --> 00:31:09,780
Do you think it's because people are
poor or because that's corny or both?

561
00:31:09,820 --> 00:31:14,300
No, I don't know if they're poor.
I feel like they're just wising up.

562
00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:17,020
There are the younger generation
that are still on the hype,

563
00:31:17,020 --> 00:31:21,400
but I feel like they will never
know what it feels like to stand

564
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,440
on line at a footlocker for a
release that may not come back out.

565
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,480
So you're saying the internet
ruined everything? Oh, yeah.

566
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,800
But it's also great because now
I can get my favorite shoes from

567
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,280
when I was a kid. That's true.
On Instagram,

568
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,840
through someone's story.
It's like a double edged sword.

569
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,200
Shout out to eBay all kicks because I
literally get all my shoes from him.

570
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,560
Yeah, no free ads. I'm just. Kidding.
Hype culture is dying. I hope so.

571
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,520
Let's get back into, you know,
actually going. No more Drake shit.

572
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,320
You know what I mean?
Do you see, he bought abs.

573
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:54,160
I did see that. And I was. Like. Sir.
But he really see that he, like,

574
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,320
paid to get, like, ab implants.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

575
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,360
What kind of a fucking psycho
shit is that when you already

576
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,960
have $400 million?
He's just doing the most.

577
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,880
I think he's just still trying to get
Rihanna, man. He's always at a ten.

578
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,840
Do you think it's just because
Rihanna will never.

579
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,080
Or is it Nicki Minaj?
Which one is he in love with?

580
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,160
I mean, if you're if you're. Rihanna.
Right? You could be Rihanna.

581
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,640
You could literally have anybody
you want.

582
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,640
The thing is, he's so I feel like
he's just weird. He's just a weirdo.

583
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,190
There's something off about him, man.
Yeah, like music is cool,

584
00:32:20,190 --> 00:32:23,230
but then you get to, like, talking
with him and he's just not there.

585
00:32:23,270 --> 00:32:25,230
You can, like, see through his ears.
In high school,

586
00:32:25,230 --> 00:32:27,510
he would have been like that theater
kid that was trying to look like.

587
00:32:27,510 --> 00:32:31,630
He was, like, tough, you know what I
mean? Oh, yeah. I mean, he's mixed.

588
00:32:31,630 --> 00:32:33,870
And, you know, I'm sure.
Like, and Canadian,

589
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:37,150
they're just automatically.
There is a thing with that, I guess.

590
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:40,310
Yeah, he's biracial Canadian.
But don't harp down on the

591
00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:42,350
theater kids because that was me.
I know, but they are, like,

592
00:32:42,350 --> 00:32:45,310
weird. He was a band kid.
I can say whatever I want.

593
00:32:46,550 --> 00:32:49,270
You know, I mean, like, they're
not tough. No, they're not tough.

594
00:32:49,310 --> 00:32:51,590
They're not, like.
Unless you play on the basketball

595
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:53,350
team and on the bowling team.
Yeah. You're not.

596
00:32:53,510 --> 00:32:55,790
I'm not like a theater kid.
Like the people that make that, like,

597
00:32:55,790 --> 00:32:58,790
their whole identity. Oh, yeah.
For sure. They have the billions of.

598
00:32:58,950 --> 00:33:01,590
People forget he started as an actor,
but that future album he did

599
00:33:01,590 --> 00:33:04,190
with was pretty sick.
Yeah, I never even watched Degrassi,

600
00:33:04,190 --> 00:33:06,030
funny enough.
No, it's Canadian bullshit.

601
00:33:06,110 --> 00:33:08,350
Who gives a. Fuck?
How did that make it to the States,

602
00:33:08,350 --> 00:33:10,790
though? It was on Nickelodeon.
Yeah, but Nickelodeon's a very

603
00:33:10,790 --> 00:33:12,550
Canadian company,
if you look into it. Oh, really?

604
00:33:12,670 --> 00:33:13,910
Yeah,
they're sort of infiltrating us.

605
00:33:13,910 --> 00:33:18,230
It's like a miss 13 programming
to make Canada seem cool.

606
00:33:18,460 --> 00:33:20,940
I did not know that. Yeah.
Nickelodeon. It's a tool.

607
00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:22,900
I mean,
I love the old school Nickelodeon.

608
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:24,500
I don't know about this new.
Even back then.

609
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:28,900
Like, what was that show with
the slime? Uh oh. Um. Guts? No.

610
00:33:29,180 --> 00:33:35,060
Like, uh, um, Alanis Morissette
was on it. Yes, that was Canadian.

611
00:33:35,060 --> 00:33:37,140
Marc Summers is Canadian.
Like a lot of those shows started

612
00:33:37,140 --> 00:33:39,700
in Canadian. Oh, wow. Yeah.
So I think it's a tool of the

613
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:43,300
Canadian deep state. Interesting.
I love Canada though. I love.

614
00:33:43,580 --> 00:33:46,780
Canada rules. Actually.
Toronto is a great city.

615
00:33:46,820 --> 00:33:48,220
Toronto is great.
But it's like kind of an

616
00:33:48,220 --> 00:33:50,140
international city,
like London or New York.

617
00:33:50,220 --> 00:33:53,700
Have you ever been to like Vancouver?
Yeah, I haven't been there,

618
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:57,420
but I've been to New Brunswick.
No, that's like French Canada a

619
00:33:57,420 --> 00:33:59,460
little bit still. Okay.
Very weird there.

620
00:33:59,460 --> 00:34:03,900
I will say like, we have better like
like we bang a little harder, you

621
00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:06,620
know what I mean? Like, it's sort of.
I always say Canada is kind of

622
00:34:06,660 --> 00:34:09,660
like when you get the cereal,
like the American culture version

623
00:34:09,660 --> 00:34:11,900
of this, it's like, you know,
at the bottom there's like the

624
00:34:11,900 --> 00:34:14,620
cereal that's in the bag,
but it's like the fake Lucky.

625
00:34:14,620 --> 00:34:20,410
Charms that's at the bottom of the
That's Drake. That's like Drake.

626
00:34:20,450 --> 00:34:24,090
Is with the no frills. Yeah.
He's just like the fake. Like.

627
00:34:24,130 --> 00:34:27,170
Sort of like he's Hydrox.
I could see that.

628
00:34:27,170 --> 00:34:29,050
I mean, the thing is,
I love early Drake.

629
00:34:29,050 --> 00:34:32,690
Do you think he got a BBL to God?
That's gotta be the question.

630
00:34:34,370 --> 00:34:38,410
That's the song, right? BBL, Drizzy.
It is. I mean, fake abs.

631
00:34:38,450 --> 00:34:42,290
Or maybe he's just into fake asses.
Yeah.

632
00:34:42,570 --> 00:34:44,890
Do you guys think Drake's cooked?
And if so, what.

633
00:34:44,930 --> 00:34:47,090
No I don't think he's cooked.
I don't think he's cooked.

634
00:34:47,090 --> 00:34:49,250
I think that.
I think he's too famous.

635
00:34:49,250 --> 00:34:52,570
I think he benefited from all this.
Kendrick 100%.

636
00:34:52,570 --> 00:34:53,970
There's no like, you know,
there's no such thing.

637
00:34:53,970 --> 00:34:56,210
And people think like, oh,
Drake's career is over because

638
00:34:56,210 --> 00:34:58,730
he got a diss track.
He's too famous for his career.

639
00:34:58,850 --> 00:35:01,250
He didn't have to make any music
and stay relevant.

640
00:35:01,290 --> 00:35:04,170
No, he's crossed the Mendoza line of
fame where he'll always be relevant,

641
00:35:04,170 --> 00:35:06,130
for sure.
And he's like, good looking.

642
00:35:06,130 --> 00:35:08,290
And he's you know what I mean?
He's Canadian. Money.

643
00:35:08,290 --> 00:35:09,810
He can go anywhere.
And people recognize.

644
00:35:09,810 --> 00:35:11,490
Yeah, he's Canadian.
There's what, three cool people

645
00:35:11,490 --> 00:35:14,690
there like The Weeknd.
Steve Nash, one of them.

646
00:35:14,690 --> 00:35:17,280
Yeah, but is he cool or is he
just good at basketball?

647
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,600
I think he's just good at basketball.
Yeah, I don't think he's cool.

648
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,840
Like, would you want to get a beer
with Steve Nash? I don't think so.

649
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,480
Maybe. Actually, yes.
Because he's got good basketball fan.

650
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,680
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, you're right,

651
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:28,520
but I don't want to talk to him
about movies. No, I will not talk.

652
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,480
Oh, actually,
doesn't he make movies? That's news.

653
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,800
I think he made some documentaries.
Whatever. That's news. I don't. Know.

654
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:39,000
How is this dude going to be
okay after, like.

655
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,000
Because he's a sociopath? Yeah.
Drake's going to be okay

656
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,720
psychologically because Drake is
a sociopath.

657
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:47,480
That's how he got that famous.
Why would you get fake abs?

658
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,960
You're six four. He's probably.
He has to have hair implants at this

659
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,960
point, right? I mean, everything you.
Don't get fake abs isn't the

660
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,560
first thing you get.
You know what I'm saying? No.

661
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,240
You go to Turkey and you get the
hair plugs.

662
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,800
Yeah, or he's probably rich enough.
He just came to him, but, like.

663
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,760
Like, that's not the first
alteration to your body.

664
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,560
You don't start with fake abs.
If you're a guy.

665
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,680
I would see how first fake abs.
What else?

666
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:14,480
What else is going above abs?
You take your shirt off. BBL.

667
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:22,710
PBL na. Lip injection. Na na.
That's all. That's abs first.

668
00:36:23,150 --> 00:36:25,750
If I were to get any work done.
Yes. Do you think.

669
00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:27,710
Women like abs,
or do you think other men like. Abs?

670
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:31,390
No, I think I think both. Yeah, yeah.
But I think women love abs.

671
00:36:31,390 --> 00:36:33,870
Sometimes I feel like the body
sculptor guys on Instagram.

672
00:36:34,110 --> 00:36:36,670
It's like mostly other dudes that
are. But honestly, that's fine.

673
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:40,630
Having abs like that right now, it's
not even technically in the dad bod,

674
00:36:40,670 --> 00:36:44,710
is it? Yeah, abs are corny, right?
As I say, as an overweight.

675
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:46,470
Guy, yeah, I would say no.
That's an overweight.

676
00:36:47,110 --> 00:36:50,070
I'm trying to get my.
Abs are corny, abs are out.

677
00:36:50,110 --> 00:36:53,030
What's in right now is being,
like, pretty overweight and not

678
00:36:53,030 --> 00:36:55,630
taking care of your body.
Yeah, I. Think and pickleball.

679
00:36:56,070 --> 00:37:00,350
And pickleball, pickleball, drinking,
being overweight, it's all bad.

680
00:37:00,550 --> 00:37:03,430
I mean, look at Leonardo DiCaprio.
Oh, my gosh, that's such a shame.

681
00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:06,510
He's got a new girl born after nine,
11 every three weeks or whatever.

682
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:12,710
Sad but true. Sad but true.
So what's up with talk?

683
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:15,900
Oh, man, we're doing good.
We're writing so much music,

684
00:37:16,060 --> 00:37:18,220
and I think that.
I feel like you guys have been taking

685
00:37:18,220 --> 00:37:21,940
a little time off of playing live.
Yeah, I think the industry in itself,

686
00:37:21,980 --> 00:37:23,580
you know, I mean,
Jack was just talking about this.

687
00:37:23,620 --> 00:37:25,740
It's in a weird place,
like no one's trying to kill

688
00:37:25,740 --> 00:37:28,260
themselves on tour anymore.
I know. Like, we would love.

689
00:37:28,260 --> 00:37:32,620
Andy. Frasco. Yeah. I mean.
Andy Frasco last tour for his

690
00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:34,060
upcoming tour dates.
We are playing together

691
00:37:34,060 --> 00:37:37,980
August 2nd at Levitt Pavilion.
Anyway, shout out to Andy for,

692
00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:40,700
you know. It helps that.
He's killing himself on tour because

693
00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:45,620
he's making the world a better place.
One jump from the stage at a time.

694
00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:48,980
One at a time. Exactly. Every day.
You guys don't know this,

695
00:37:48,980 --> 00:37:51,300
but he makes me do it before we
record the podcast. Wow.

696
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:56,220
That's dedication. I'm his boytoy.
His beautiful goyim. That's so funny.

697
00:37:56,740 --> 00:37:58,540
But, yeah, we're doing good.
We're just writing a bunch of

698
00:37:58,540 --> 00:38:01,300
music and not trying to kill
ourselves on tour. That's cool.

699
00:38:01,340 --> 00:38:03,740
Yeah. I mean, he's got kids.
Yeah. I feel like.

700
00:38:04,020 --> 00:38:06,580
Honestly, everybody's probably
gonna have kids before me,

701
00:38:06,620 --> 00:38:08,740
and I'm the oldest.
I feel like Matt is coming for Matt.

702
00:38:08,740 --> 00:38:10,500
Oh, it's coming for Matt.
I know his wife.

703
00:38:10,540 --> 00:38:12,850
It's coming for his wife.
I'm loving her TikToks.

704
00:38:12,850 --> 00:38:15,650
She's hilarious.
She's like, she should be an actress.

705
00:38:15,850 --> 00:38:18,690
Uh, well, I mean, these days,
all you gotta do is be on TikTok.

706
00:38:18,730 --> 00:38:21,130
They did a great video the other
day where, like, he was just saying

707
00:38:21,130 --> 00:38:23,290
a random person's name, and then
she would do an impression of him.

708
00:38:23,290 --> 00:38:25,570
But it was just like an impression
of a guy named Phil. Not.

709
00:38:25,610 --> 00:38:28,730
Oh, yeah, not a famous. Yeah, she's.
She's snapped into it so fast.

710
00:38:28,770 --> 00:38:31,130
I know she's good. She's good.
She's a star.

711
00:38:31,170 --> 00:38:33,290
There's a there's a game that I
like to play with my girl.

712
00:38:33,290 --> 00:38:36,490
And it's called you. Have a.
Girl. Name that person I sure do.

713
00:38:36,530 --> 00:38:40,410
Breaking news. Hard launch.
Isaac Thiel is taken. Oh.

714
00:38:41,090 --> 00:38:43,770
Sorry, ladies.
She is the greatest person.

715
00:38:44,970 --> 00:38:46,890
I ain't even gonna put her on
blast like that. Just know that.

716
00:38:46,890 --> 00:38:48,810
She's a Denver gal.
No, she's a queen.

717
00:38:49,210 --> 00:38:50,610
I'm not even gonna put her where
she's at.

718
00:38:50,610 --> 00:38:52,810
Okay, that's fair,
but she doesn't live in Denver. No.

719
00:38:52,930 --> 00:38:58,170
Smart long distance is great, man.
Yeah, you know it is. And it isn't.

720
00:38:58,490 --> 00:39:00,490
Me and my girlfriend were long
distance for, like, a year. One time.

721
00:39:00,490 --> 00:39:02,050
It was maybe the best year of my
life.

722
00:39:02,090 --> 00:39:05,410
Yo, honestly, absence does make
the heart grow fonder.

723
00:39:05,450 --> 00:39:08,450
Yeah, it does, but I'm huge on
solitude, so. And she lived here.

724
00:39:08,770 --> 00:39:11,800
I was on tour all the time, so it's
like, even if we lived together,

725
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,040
it's not like we saw each other
basically the same amount.

726
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,440
That's fair, that's fair.
Oh, but I was telling you about

727
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,920
the game. Game?
The game is whenever you go to a

728
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,560
restaurant. Oh, yes.
You try to guess people's names.

729
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,200
Oh, that's pretty fun. So.
And if you do it right,

730
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,200
you can get your waiter or
waitress on it in on it. Oh, yeah.

731
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,320
And they can actually confirm
because they have the credit card.

732
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,920
It's called the name game.
She invented it.

733
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,040
You know what I would do?
I would just guess Muhammad for

734
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,560
everybody cause that's it's the
most common name in the world.

735
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,040
Read a book for once. Yeah.
So you just guessed Muhammad for

736
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,680
everyone. One name. Yeah.
What are your Irish.

737
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,200
When you got the ID? Yeah.
Either Muhammad or John for men.

738
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,120
And I don't know what it would be
for women. You know, it's funny.

739
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,720
She's really good at the game.
I just started being really good

740
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:55,040
at it.
But a lot of Mats and Ryan's

741
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,400
around here. Oh, yeah.
You're in Denver. It's it's.

742
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,520
There's a good amount of nicks.
It's Denver. So not that many jacks.

743
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,880
Not many jacks.
It's like a boomer name.

744
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,080
Yeah, it's like a guy who. Yeah.
Jack's like a I just got home

745
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:14,700
from World War Two name.
Sports reporter that they hung

746
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:17,580
out with the bar. That's cool.
That's a great story.

747
00:40:17,620 --> 00:40:19,980
A drunken sports.
I feel like all sports reporters

748
00:40:19,980 --> 00:40:22,500
are alcoholics. Oh, yeah. For sure.
You know, they're sipping.

749
00:40:22,660 --> 00:40:25,300
All they do is go to games.
SIP it up. Bobo's.

750
00:40:28,980 --> 00:40:32,620
What's so you ever you ever find
out if you're right or not? Right.

751
00:40:32,620 --> 00:40:35,700
About what? Oh, about their names.
Yeah. So you gotta ask.

752
00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:40,540
I was I was with my lady at the time,
and we were in Charleston, and, um,

753
00:40:40,820 --> 00:40:45,140
I asked the waiter, I was like,
so what do you think their names are

754
00:40:45,180 --> 00:40:48,740
just a random couple across the way.
And he was like, I don't know,

755
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:52,460
but I'm gonna find out.
I was like, okay, don't tell them

756
00:40:52,460 --> 00:40:55,660
that we want to know their names.
Just. Yeah, you just got to find out.

757
00:40:55,740 --> 00:40:57,820
Chill, bro. Keep it chill.
What is your name?

758
00:40:58,020 --> 00:41:02,660
I guessed Michelle was not her name.
Um, and I can't remember what.

759
00:41:02,660 --> 00:41:07,220
My Michelle's are blonde usually.
Yeah, I could see that being a thing.

760
00:41:07,260 --> 00:41:09,810
This kind of feels like it,
probably does because like, I knew

761
00:41:09,810 --> 00:41:13,850
one Michelle. We were totally off.
And then we talked to the couple

762
00:41:13,850 --> 00:41:15,570
and they were like,
what do you think our names are?

763
00:41:15,570 --> 00:41:20,490
And they said, Rico and Delilah.
Well, you're never gonna guess.

764
00:41:20,490 --> 00:41:25,170
Rico. Somebody said that I'm a Rico.
Oh, for you, that's for me.

765
00:41:25,170 --> 00:41:27,410
That's the dumbest thing.
That sounds like a drug dealer

766
00:41:27,450 --> 00:41:30,450
nickname.
Like I'm a character on GTA.

767
00:41:30,490 --> 00:41:35,210
That's kind of. Racist, actually.
Them calling you Rico sounds racist.

768
00:41:35,330 --> 00:41:37,770
It's just really funny.
I was like, that makes no sense,

769
00:41:37,770 --> 00:41:40,290
but I'll take it.
So now we're both Rico and

770
00:41:40,290 --> 00:41:42,450
Delilah to each other.
That's a dangerous game for a white

771
00:41:42,450 --> 00:41:45,890
person to play with a black man.
Yeah, it's. I would still play.

772
00:41:45,930 --> 00:41:51,050
His name is DeVante Jones. Jones.
He put the last name on there.

773
00:41:51,730 --> 00:41:56,650
God damn DeVante Tayshaun Williams.
No it's actually Muhammad.

774
00:41:58,410 --> 00:42:04,170
One name. Mohammed Moses.
Oh my gosh. That's pretty funny.

775
00:42:04,210 --> 00:42:06,610
Play the name game guys.
It's so much fun. Yeah.

776
00:42:06,610 --> 00:42:08,720
So talk's gonna be back, huh?
So you guys are gonna be back in

777
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:10,440
the fall? What are you doing?
Actually, we're going to be here in

778
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,040
Denver at Levitt Pavilion. Oh, yeah.
The week after the Andy Show,

779
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,080
August 16th. You got my boy.
What? Michael Wilbur opening.

780
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,840
Yeah, man,
we've played a lot of music with him.

781
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,360
We recorded a song he's killing.
He's like, the best sax player in the

782
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,400
world. I say. Ah, that's debatable.
Well, from this perspective.

783
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,800
But that's my guy, though.
No, no, I'm not saying like the most

784
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,280
like I'm not saying he's like the
best sax player in terms of like,

785
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,720
fun to listen to or like even like,
but he can play like just like he's

786
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,520
he literally can play anything.
That's what I'm getting at more than

787
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,760
like and like maybe he's not the
best musician on the saxophone ever,

788
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,160
but like, as far as his
limitations on saxophone,

789
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,440
I don't think he has any. No.
And I think his music is killer.

790
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,960
It's dope.
It's so it's like it's like EDM with

791
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,280
jazz. And he's cool. He's not a.
Vanguard. Oh yeah, he's dope.

792
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,920
He works out. He like respects.
He's not like one of those guys

793
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,040
that's like a badass.
Yeah, he's humble, he's chill, and

794
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,390
he's really easy to get along with.
Like writing music with him was Yeah.

795
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:07,670
Seamless. He's a creative guy.
Loved it.

796
00:43:07,710 --> 00:43:10,390
He has very basically no limits on
the horn, though. He's killing.

797
00:43:10,590 --> 00:43:13,470
Did you see when he put that,
uh, that cone in his.

798
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:16,670
That's their thing. It's so sick.
They've been doing that forever.

799
00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:18,470
Oh, man.
To mess around with that in the

800
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:20,470
studio.
Other people are copying that now.

801
00:43:20,510 --> 00:43:24,550
Oh, yeah, I'm sure of it. Bitches.
You should have just put a patent on

802
00:43:24,590 --> 00:43:26,470
that. Then they're all mad at I.
But it's like you're just

803
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:28,790
copying them anyway. Oh, yeah.
I mean, AI is taking over.

804
00:43:29,030 --> 00:43:31,510
AI with a parking cone.
And not Allen Iverson.

805
00:43:32,070 --> 00:43:33,710
No, that'd be sick.
That'd be sick if they turned

806
00:43:33,710 --> 00:43:35,790
into Allen. Yeah, he's a badass.
So he's opening with you.

807
00:43:35,830 --> 00:43:37,630
Probably playing with you, too.
Yeah, he's going to open,

808
00:43:37,630 --> 00:43:40,510
and then he'll probably play the
tracks that we recorded with him,

809
00:43:40,510 --> 00:43:43,390
which are 2 or 3. That's cool.
Yeah. Should be fun.

810
00:43:43,550 --> 00:43:46,870
I've been trying to get at Levitt
with Talk Forever. Levitt rules.

811
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:49,230
I love. It. It's a free show.
It's a great time.

812
00:43:49,350 --> 00:43:53,030
So that's the eighth. August 16th.
Oh, so it's two weeks after.

813
00:43:53,070 --> 00:43:55,870
Yeah, that's my girlfriend's
birthday. Hey, so you're not coming?

814
00:43:55,910 --> 00:44:00,350
No. That means I am coming.
Bring your gal. And she.

815
00:44:00,350 --> 00:44:02,110
Like good. Times. She likes it.
She's probably working.

816
00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:04,350
On some jam music.
She loves jam bands.

817
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:07,100
Her favorite bands.
Umphrey's McGee. Oh, okay. Girl.

818
00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:08,980
How does she feel about Chris
not being in the band?

819
00:44:09,180 --> 00:44:10,940
Well, she's not that into it.
Oh, okay. She hasn't. Seen.

820
00:44:10,940 --> 00:44:14,460
Him yet. She's not, like, a dork.
She just likes to go to their shows.

821
00:44:14,460 --> 00:44:16,500
You know what I mean? Fair enough.
She's too attractive to be that

822
00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:23,500
unknown for. You. Oh.
That's amazing. Yeah.

823
00:44:23,540 --> 00:44:25,700
No, she likes Umphrey's and talk
and all that kind of stuff.

824
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:27,940
She's a rocker.
Well, I appreciate her for

825
00:44:27,940 --> 00:44:29,780
liking talk. She'll come out.
Maybe I'll bring her out.

826
00:44:29,780 --> 00:44:32,900
She's not working some Elton
John or something, you know.

827
00:44:32,940 --> 00:44:34,900
She's always working.
She worked for Metallica a

828
00:44:34,900 --> 00:44:36,980
couple weeks ago.
I wanted to go to that show.

829
00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:39,740
I kind of don't like Metallica.
I don't care about them.

830
00:44:39,740 --> 00:44:42,900
But I wanted to go. Just to see.
Yeah, I bet it rips.

831
00:44:42,940 --> 00:44:45,340
Yeah, I was talking to Jeremy.
What's your favorite? Like?

832
00:44:45,340 --> 00:44:49,180
Okay, so you're probably not like a
big metal guy, right? I like racist.

833
00:44:49,660 --> 00:44:52,460
Stuff, like. But. Okay.
So who's your favorite metal band?

834
00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:55,980
Dream theater. Oh, okay.
You like the polished? Sort of.

835
00:44:56,020 --> 00:44:58,700
I can't do his voice, though.
It's Mike Portnoy for me, though.

836
00:44:58,740 --> 00:45:01,660
Mike Portnoy is like the opposite
of Lars. It's him. For me.

837
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:08,610
He's the opposite of Lars as a
drummer. Yeah, but I just love.

838
00:45:08,650 --> 00:45:11,130
I love his playing.
I think it's tasty.

839
00:45:11,170 --> 00:45:13,930
And for, like, what they're doing,
it's like it's perfect.

840
00:45:13,970 --> 00:45:17,730
Did you ever, uh, check out Liquid
Tension Experiment? No. What's that?

841
00:45:17,770 --> 00:45:20,410
It's like dream theater without
a singer. It's like.

842
00:45:21,050 --> 00:45:24,370
I think it's. Yeah.
So it's basically instrumental

843
00:45:24,370 --> 00:45:25,970
dream theater.
It's, like, mostly the same guys.

844
00:45:25,970 --> 00:45:28,090
I can't remember the guitar players.
Okay, I.

845
00:45:28,090 --> 00:45:30,570
Will definitely check that out.
Is it Patitucci?

846
00:45:31,610 --> 00:45:33,810
I mean,
he's playing jacks like I like girls.

847
00:45:33,810 --> 00:45:38,250
I don't. Know. I get laid, dude.
I. Don't care. Dream theater.

848
00:45:38,290 --> 00:45:40,290
Okay, what about like,
of those 80s ones that are, like,

849
00:45:40,290 --> 00:45:44,370
more famous, like Metallica, mines,
Megadeth? They're sneaky good.

850
00:45:44,370 --> 00:45:46,610
You should check it out.
I would go Primus.

851
00:45:46,650 --> 00:45:48,250
Ooh,
they're playing Red rocks tonight.

852
00:45:48,690 --> 00:45:53,210
Tonight? They got that new drummer.
Did you audition for that?

853
00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:55,530
I definitely didn't.
I didn't even get a call, which

854
00:45:55,530 --> 00:45:57,970
I'm not. No, it wasn't like that.
You just like, threw. It was like. A.

855
00:45:57,970 --> 00:46:00,010
Oh, you gotta throw in a little
audition tape. Yeah.

856
00:46:00,050 --> 00:46:02,960
Some guy one in Arkansas.
Uh frasco knows him, can't remember

857
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,400
what band he's in. But I didn't even.
Isn't that crazy? I mean.

858
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,200
To go from that to getting that gig.
It's crazy to get big gigs like

859
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,720
that in general.
But he didn't like scale up.

860
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:16,480
He went from like local band
from Arkansas to. I. Mean.

861
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,640
He went from playing garages to.
And he like, won it through like

862
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,640
a televised audition,
which is kind of a lot. Good for him.

863
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,800
That's like the American Idol
way of things. Yeah, I like it.

864
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,120
It is kind of. Yeah.
I don't mind those singing shows

865
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,120
sometimes.
Oh, no,

866
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,960
some of them are really ridiculous.
I actually auditioned for

867
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,200
American Idol back in the day.
You should do the voice.

868
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,200
The voice is killing.
I like the voice because they

869
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,960
don't have, like, they don't make
fun of people they don't like,

870
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,560
have bad people on.
Just like, right. Just to rip folks.

871
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,160
I think they do that less in
American Idol now.

872
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,000
I think probably someone
probably did it, did the thing,

873
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,840
you know what I mean?
Last time I actually watched one

874
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,280
of those shows.
Sometimes when I'm it's uplifting.

875
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,280
If you just put on YouTube and put on
best auditions, America's Got Talent.

876
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,280
Do you know about the, um,
Sunday's Best?

877
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:00,920
It's the gospel version of that.
Oh my God, yes, I do know about this.

878
00:47:00,990 --> 00:47:04,310
I used to watch it, I told him.
Yeah, it's probably way better.

879
00:47:04,910 --> 00:47:08,510
It's killing. It's like so many runs.
That's the one that I actually

880
00:47:08,510 --> 00:47:11,470
did watch. More than anything.
When gospel singers start competing,

881
00:47:11,470 --> 00:47:13,310
it can go wrong.
Oh, it can go really bad.

882
00:47:13,310 --> 00:47:16,990
But some of the judges, some of the.
I mean, it was Kirk Franklin.

883
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:18,750
I was gonna say I.
Was the first person I was.

884
00:47:18,750 --> 00:47:20,310
Gonna. Say.
It's Kirk Franklin, too,

885
00:47:20,310 --> 00:47:22,390
judging that shit.
Donnie McClurkin, I think was.

886
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:25,150
And he's an OG.
What about, like, um, Melvin?

887
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:28,230
Yolanda Adams was like the.
And she's a great singer.

888
00:47:28,270 --> 00:47:30,790
Kim Burrell ever on it? Yeah.
I don't know if she was a judge,

889
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:32,070
though.
People got kind of mad at her

890
00:47:32,070 --> 00:47:33,830
recently. I can't remember why.
Who's the singer?

891
00:47:33,830 --> 00:47:36,790
That was like asking people to donate
more. He's going to lock the doors.

892
00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:40,390
Oh, Marvin Sapp, not Melvin. Marvin.
Yeah, yeah, Melvin. Marvin Sapp.

893
00:47:40,550 --> 00:47:43,310
And that was so weird because
they took that out of.

894
00:47:43,710 --> 00:47:46,070
I mean, listen,
we don't we can go into the religion.

895
00:47:46,070 --> 00:47:48,750
Let's go into it of it.
I like talking religion.

896
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:53,110
It's just really funny how people
take certain clips and then run with

897
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:57,190
like, that's Bible. Who knows what.
Well, yeah, he's also not a pastor,

898
00:47:57,190 --> 00:48:00,820
is he? I think he is probably.
I think he is. Probably got both.

899
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:05,580
Yeah, I mean, he's a great musician.
But. People don't know this.

900
00:48:05,580 --> 00:48:10,020
But there was a group from the
90s and 80s called commissioned

901
00:48:10,060 --> 00:48:14,300
that had Fred Hammond. Oh, shit.
Marvin Sapp and like, two other

902
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:16,500
dudes that I can't remember.
There's a pop version of that band.

903
00:48:16,540 --> 00:48:17,700
It was.
I can't remember what it's called,

904
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:20,140
but it was Babyface and L.A.
Reid were in the. Oh, yeah.

905
00:48:20,140 --> 00:48:23,260
Yeah. Um. Cincinnati and Indy.
Because Babyface is from

906
00:48:23,260 --> 00:48:27,100
Indianapolis, right? Yeah.
And it was like the groove or

907
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:28,980
something real simple.
All those badass bands.

908
00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:31,220
Before those guys get famous,
they all have one word.

909
00:48:31,260 --> 00:48:34,620
Yeah, it was killing.
It was like it was boys to men,

910
00:48:34,620 --> 00:48:37,180
but gospel. What do you think?
I have a theory about band names

911
00:48:37,180 --> 00:48:39,540
now that we're on band names.
Oh ho ho ho. Yeah, let's do it.

912
00:48:39,580 --> 00:48:41,460
Okay, so I remember that jam
band thing I posted.

913
00:48:41,460 --> 00:48:43,260
Did you see that video?
I posted some video about?

914
00:48:43,260 --> 00:48:46,340
Jam band names are all bad.
Yes I did. Drug dealer, yada yada.

915
00:48:46,740 --> 00:48:49,980
But I kind of have had a
revelation that almost every band

916
00:48:49,980 --> 00:48:53,900
name is bad after like 1992,
because they're all taken.

917
00:48:54,020 --> 00:48:57,340
Everything good's taken number one.
And I think that people think

918
00:48:57,340 --> 00:49:00,080
like one guy argued to me.
He's like he said,

919
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,320
Grateful Dead's a good band name.
That's they are. That is good.

920
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,400
But it's also 1965 when they came up.
Yeah, I was gonna say that's.

921
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,360
Phish,
I would argue is a bad band name,

922
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,360
but. I agree. No, no disrespect.
I like the band, but but because

923
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,480
they're famous, it's been so
normalized. Oh yeah, for sure.

924
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:18,600
That it's people think it's a
good band name now.

925
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,880
It's it's because of the hype.
So like. Exactly.

926
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,160
So it's like our band name is only
good if the band gets famous.

927
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,160
The tree. The tree is that.
That'd be a good band name.

928
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,800
That's better than most of jam
band band names out there.

929
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,040
That doesn't make no sense.
I know, but. Nothing.

930
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,560
But like, what's a sample of
like a famous band?

931
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,120
Like, actually, Radiohead's a good
band name. That's a great band.

932
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,720
Yeah, so maybe I'm wrong, but
maybe there's a couple. Left, but.

933
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:46,120
They might name their band before
1992. Do you know that band anybody?

934
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,520
Yeah,
that's kind of a good band name.

935
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,600
That's a great band name and that's
a great band. Jazz. Nasty jazz.

936
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,760
People have more leeway,
I think, too, with that. Yeah.

937
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,640
They also are probably more
intelligent.

938
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,390
Imagine Dragons, do you think?
I think I would hate that band

939
00:49:58,430 --> 00:50:00,950
name if I.
I don't know,

940
00:50:00,950 --> 00:50:03,310
I think that's kind of cool.
But are you being affected by

941
00:50:03,310 --> 00:50:07,110
the fact that they're famous,
though? Yes. Yeah. You are.

942
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:11,430
I imagine dragons. Yeah.
If they were, if they were terrible,

943
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:14,910
I'd be like, that's a dumb name.
No one imagines that band.

944
00:50:15,150 --> 00:50:16,870
There's like two people that
have ever imagined.

945
00:50:17,390 --> 00:50:19,310
There's two people that have
ever imagined. Dragons.

946
00:50:19,350 --> 00:50:26,230
J.R.R. Tolkien and, uh, who's the
Game of Thrones guy? Oh. Yeah.

947
00:50:26,270 --> 00:50:28,550
Right. Right, right. George R.R..
Martin. Those are the guys.

948
00:50:28,590 --> 00:50:30,830
So they you think they like,
loved Imagine Dragons?

949
00:50:31,150 --> 00:50:34,310
No, they probably, like,
picked it out of a hat. No, no.

950
00:50:34,510 --> 00:50:39,470
The write the authors. Do you think?
Oh, 000. Sick band likes what I like.

951
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:41,630
No,
that's what I do I imagine dragons.

952
00:50:41,710 --> 00:50:43,950
Imagine dragons all the time.
That band weirds me out.

953
00:50:43,950 --> 00:50:45,910
He's too jacked too.
I don't like when musicians get too

954
00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:48,390
jacked like that. Lead singers. Man.
Honestly,

955
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:50,790
I would love to get jacked like that.
But I feel like. You're a drummer.

956
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:53,430
It's different. Yeah. You're right.
It looks cool when you guys are

957
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:54,710
in shape.
It looks like you practice all the.

958
00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:58,500
Time, but we don't.
But like a guy like Jared Leto's

959
00:50:58,540 --> 00:51:00,140
a singer.
And like, I go on this all the time.

960
00:51:00,140 --> 00:51:02,580
I'm always harping on Jared Leto,
but. Is he jacked?

961
00:51:02,620 --> 00:51:04,900
Yeah, he's got abs for sure,
but he's got, like, skinny guy abs.

962
00:51:04,940 --> 00:51:08,260
I was gonna say that's different
than, like. Heroin. ABS, abs.

963
00:51:08,540 --> 00:51:11,660
Why don't you get, like,
over 44 off? It's difficult, man.

964
00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:14,780
Especially if you like pizza and
pasta and all that.

965
00:51:14,820 --> 00:51:17,980
Can't eat that stuff and have a six
pack. That's, like, impossible. Yeah.

966
00:51:17,980 --> 00:51:19,700
I want to enjoy my life and die
younger. That's.

967
00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:22,340
You know what I mean?
That I, I, you know, it's funny.

968
00:51:22,860 --> 00:51:25,860
I go to New York and I save my
bread intake for New York.

969
00:51:26,180 --> 00:51:29,060
That makes a hell of sense.
So when I come back to Denver,

970
00:51:29,060 --> 00:51:30,900
it's fruit and juice.
Since I got back,

971
00:51:30,900 --> 00:51:33,460
it's been watermelon, cherries,
blackberries, the fruits.

972
00:51:33,460 --> 00:51:35,740
Really good here, by the way.
Yeah, actually. A lot.

973
00:51:35,740 --> 00:51:38,540
Of it I can't find, like, black
seeded watermelon to save my life.

974
00:51:38,580 --> 00:51:41,340
Yeah, outside of the farmer's market.
They're better in the South.

975
00:51:41,660 --> 00:51:43,180
Oh, that's where they grow.
I mean, everything's.

976
00:51:43,220 --> 00:51:45,060
Better with Costa Rica.
There's some peaches out here.

977
00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:47,340
That slap though. Yeah.
If you get them at, like, a little

978
00:51:47,340 --> 00:51:51,140
stand somewhere on federal. Mhm.
Sprouts. Sprouts has good produce.

979
00:51:51,180 --> 00:51:55,170
They do, but not the one on Colfax.
I can't shop at sprouts because

980
00:51:55,170 --> 00:51:56,890
I can't cook.
And sprouts is just like a store

981
00:51:56,890 --> 00:51:59,650
of ingredients. It really is.
That's why I hate about that store.

982
00:52:00,410 --> 00:52:03,330
Like Trader Joe's is the
philosophical opposite of sprouts.

983
00:52:04,370 --> 00:52:06,490
If you go to Trader Joe's,
it's like, oh, it's delicious.

984
00:52:06,730 --> 00:52:09,210
If I had to pick one and never go
to the other one again, I think I

985
00:52:09,250 --> 00:52:12,290
would probably pick Trader Joe's.
Yeah, they have hidden snacks.

986
00:52:12,290 --> 00:52:14,210
They have delicious things in
every corner.

987
00:52:14,250 --> 00:52:17,210
They also have really good ginger.
They sell produce. They what?

988
00:52:17,250 --> 00:52:21,290
Ginger snap cookies. I'm a fiend.
You are? Yes. Anything? Ginger.

989
00:52:21,290 --> 00:52:23,650
Honestly, I didn't think you really
ate desserts. You kind of give me.

990
00:52:23,650 --> 00:52:25,690
Like I don't eat dessert.
I am a sweet.

991
00:52:25,690 --> 00:52:27,530
I could see you being like.
I don't eat white flour.

992
00:52:27,570 --> 00:52:31,890
Oh, man, I wish I'd have a six pack.
We have a eight.

993
00:52:31,890 --> 00:52:34,690
Pack if I didn't eat white flour.
But I'm from.

994
00:52:34,690 --> 00:52:37,810
I'm born and raised in New York,
so it's really difficult to not. Get.

995
00:52:38,330 --> 00:52:42,370
A kaiser roll or a sesame. Bread.
Or, you know,

996
00:52:42,410 --> 00:52:47,250
pizza and pasta and croissants. Er.
I mean, bagels aren't really

997
00:52:47,250 --> 00:52:51,890
good anywhere but there, huh?
Unless it's like somebody from.

998
00:52:51,930 --> 00:52:54,560
It's very rare.
I would put them in the whole

999
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,920
East Coast.
It's kind of like I've had great

1000
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,240
bagels from Pennsylvania.
Fair enough. And Jersey.

1001
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,040
Where there's more Jewish people.
Right?

1002
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,200
Wherever there's Jewish people.
It's like kind of like.

1003
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,560
But like, it's just much easier.
You can get a good bagel here,

1004
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,280
but it's much easier to get a
good bagel on the East Coast.

1005
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,480
And like, at,
just like by a gas station.

1006
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:16,640
I was gonna say, you can go to
the corner store. Yeah, exactly.

1007
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:21,040
Most bodega spot and just get a
bagel and just be like, yo, just

1008
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,680
put butter and jelly on a toasted.
And it's like, the best thing here.

1009
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,520
You have to go to, like, a store.
The place that has, like,

1010
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,960
an Instagram account.
They're in Denver food scene.

1011
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,240
Yeah. Best bagel in Denver.
It's just as good as New York,

1012
00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:37,160
we promise. Get in here right now.
An iced coffee is 750. No!

1013
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,480
You fucking lying.
The lines around the door and

1014
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,480
it's 95 degrees outside.
Everybody's hungover from

1015
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,560
cocaine the night.
Before, but come get your best bagel.

1016
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,880
Yeah, but get us in every get
everything bagel.

1017
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,240
Oh, that sounds so good. Right now.
We're across the street from a

1018
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:54,750
music venue.
That does sound good right now.

1019
00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:56,270
Yeah, it's kind of like fried
chicken in the South.

1020
00:53:56,270 --> 00:53:57,950
You can just get, like,
the best meal you've ever had.

1021
00:53:58,150 --> 00:54:00,510
Literally at a gas station.
It's the best. Out of gas.

1022
00:54:00,510 --> 00:54:03,150
I'd be getting gas three times a day.
There was this gas station in Texas.

1023
00:54:03,150 --> 00:54:05,470
I can't remember because I was on
tour, and I literally just woke up

1024
00:54:05,470 --> 00:54:07,830
and they were like, yo, this is
supposed to be the best spot to get

1025
00:54:07,830 --> 00:54:11,190
barbecue. And I was like, what?
We're the gas station.

1026
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:12,870
Looks like something out of.
And then it was.

1027
00:54:12,910 --> 00:54:17,230
And it was fire. It was so good.
I got a pulled pork sandwich and

1028
00:54:17,230 --> 00:54:19,110
potato salad and baked beans,
and it was like,

1029
00:54:19,110 --> 00:54:21,510
better than anything I've ever had.
Barbecue is another one of those

1030
00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:23,710
things that's been like, uh,
gentrified.

1031
00:54:24,070 --> 00:54:27,910
Oh, and you get it here and it's
like, comes on like a prison tray,

1032
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:30,510
and it looks.
And you get like one slab of beef.

1033
00:54:30,510 --> 00:54:32,030
There's a new place by my house
that's pretty good.

1034
00:54:32,030 --> 00:54:33,310
I'm not gonna give him a free plug,
but.

1035
00:54:33,350 --> 00:54:36,110
Okay, I'll get that information
from you later.

1036
00:54:36,510 --> 00:54:39,190
No, it's like it's right by sprouts.
It's like where that Steve snap

1037
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:41,830
and the dog used to be.
Okay, it's pretty good, man.

1038
00:54:41,870 --> 00:54:44,630
Uh, but it's like good servings.
You get to pick your own amount

1039
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:46,950
of sauce. Okay?
Don't put the sauce on it for me,

1040
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:49,150
motherfucker.
Nah, you better put the sauce on it

1041
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:52,660
and. Make. The sauce. Give me sides.
I want sides of sauce. Yeah.

1042
00:54:52,660 --> 00:54:55,900
They've, like, made all barbecue
a la carte. Now that's weak.

1043
00:54:55,940 --> 00:54:57,660
It's like you're going to MCL
cafeteria.

1044
00:54:57,740 --> 00:55:00,500
Give it to me in a brown paper
bag and it's greasy. Yeah.

1045
00:55:00,500 --> 00:55:02,460
I'm not trying to, like.
That's what I. Want.

1046
00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:05,380
I'm here for one reason only.
Here for a good time.

1047
00:55:05,380 --> 00:55:08,100
Not for a long time. Mhm.
Anyway, back to this religion thing.

1048
00:55:08,140 --> 00:55:10,780
Yes. You're a spiritual man right.
I would say so. Yes.

1049
00:55:10,820 --> 00:55:14,620
Do you ever ever ever like have
issues with this hedonistic Denver

1050
00:55:14,620 --> 00:55:17,820
lifestyle, that lifestyle that
people have. Yeah. But I don't let.

1051
00:55:17,860 --> 00:55:20,380
Like how do you balance that.
Because I mean you're not like a

1052
00:55:20,660 --> 00:55:23,820
saint, you know, you're not like a,
you know, you're not celibate guy.

1053
00:55:23,820 --> 00:55:26,660
You're not like a I mean,
you're on the you're.

1054
00:55:26,660 --> 00:55:29,420
On the taking moments to you're.
On the holy end. Yeah.

1055
00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:31,700
I'm just saying you're not like
a puritan where you're like,

1056
00:55:31,700 --> 00:55:34,700
telling other people what to do.
I don't want to infringe

1057
00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:36,820
anything on anyone.
But you don't want them to

1058
00:55:36,860 --> 00:55:39,220
infringe on your life either.
So how do you what's like the main

1059
00:55:39,220 --> 00:55:43,780
thing you do to balance that?
Pray honestly.

1060
00:55:43,780 --> 00:55:48,540
Because when you talk to God for me.
Mhm. Um that's when you see.

1061
00:55:48,660 --> 00:55:50,930
That's what I like about you.
You don't really push it on anybody.

1062
00:55:50,970 --> 00:55:53,490
It's not about anybody else.
It's literally about my own

1063
00:55:53,490 --> 00:55:56,370
personal relationship with God.
And that's why I think relationship

1064
00:55:56,370 --> 00:55:58,730
is better than religion,
because religion is man made.

1065
00:55:58,770 --> 00:56:03,770
Religion is a personal relationship
that is yours and you cultivate it.

1066
00:56:04,130 --> 00:56:08,690
You understand what it is like
that when you live that,

1067
00:56:08,690 --> 00:56:12,650
and you exemplify that, no one could
ever take that from you, number one.

1068
00:56:12,970 --> 00:56:15,850
And then you don't have to beat
people over the head with the Bible.

1069
00:56:15,890 --> 00:56:19,210
Number two,
because you are embodying what you

1070
00:56:19,210 --> 00:56:22,650
want people to understand. Yeah.
And also like religion as a credit

1071
00:56:22,650 --> 00:56:25,290
card sometimes. Oh, that's big facts.
I don't want to fuck it.

1072
00:56:25,290 --> 00:56:27,290
Yeah, it has a bank account.
I don't want to fuck.

1073
00:56:27,330 --> 00:56:30,010
I mean, it just goes to show,
like churches don't have to pay

1074
00:56:30,010 --> 00:56:33,610
taxes and all that other stuff.
Yeah, it's just a it's so crazy.

1075
00:56:33,610 --> 00:56:36,650
So how do you keep it from seeping
into your life? These, these.

1076
00:56:36,690 --> 00:56:39,050
There's a lot of demons here.
There are a lot of demons.

1077
00:56:39,050 --> 00:56:41,290
It's it's difficult.
Honestly, I think that, like I said,

1078
00:56:41,290 --> 00:56:44,570
prayer and being able to like,
die to yourself.

1079
00:56:45,250 --> 00:56:47,650
Like, that's one of the biggest
things that I do. What now?

1080
00:56:47,690 --> 00:56:49,600
Die to yourself. What does that.
Mean?

1081
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,200
So when you look in the mirror
and you see some things that you

1082
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,800
really don't like about yourself,
you got to come to grips with that.

1083
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,960
Oh, pray about it.
Say, listen,

1084
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,000
this is not something that I
want to be continuing living in.

1085
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,400
I don't want to be seen like this.
These are my vices boom, boom,

1086
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,640
boom and boom.
And this is how I need to be able to

1087
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,720
get a grip on them. And honestly.
Yeah. It comes with discipline.

1088
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:13,640
And that's the hardest thing.
Discipline our minds first

1089
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,040
because that's where it starts.
And then, you know,

1090
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,760
being in a place where you can
like communicate that to people.

1091
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:24,240
So then they're seeing you living out
the things that you're talking about.

1092
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,920
And then maybe they do less.
Exactly, exactly. Maybe not.

1093
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,720
No cocaine, but less cocaine,
but less.

1094
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,640
And then, you know, honestly,
progression over perfection.

1095
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,720
You know, you know, if you shoot
for perfection, you will fail.

1096
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,000
Uh, another thing with these
demons in Denver.

1097
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,720
Well, they're everywhere,
but we live in Denver,

1098
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,040
and some of them are very likable
people that I get along with. Great.

1099
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,960
Yeah. And it's like, damn it.
But you hold them in a box.

1100
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,540
That's true.
Like you'll never really see me at,

1101
00:57:49,580 --> 00:57:51,180
like,
after parties or anything like that.

1102
00:57:51,180 --> 00:57:52,420
Not because I don't want to be
either.

1103
00:57:52,420 --> 00:57:55,500
It's just because I'd rather be on my
couch. I try to be home by 2 a.m..

1104
00:57:56,140 --> 00:57:58,300
No, I'm talking about.
I'm a late night guy, though.

1105
00:57:58,340 --> 00:58:00,620
Yeah, I'm an insomniac anyway.
I mean.

1106
00:58:00,660 --> 00:58:03,020
Once it starts turning to, like,
eight dudes in the kitchen,

1107
00:58:03,020 --> 00:58:05,060
I'm out. Bro.
I'm not trying to talk about

1108
00:58:05,060 --> 00:58:07,740
whatever business idea.
You only have too many sausages

1109
00:58:07,740 --> 00:58:10,900
in the kitchen. I'm gone on that.
Never. What do they say?

1110
00:58:10,900 --> 00:58:13,740
Never go to a second location with a
hippie. Or never go with a hippie.

1111
00:58:14,140 --> 00:58:16,300
See, I don't even know that phrase.
Because I don't. Never go to a.

1112
00:58:16,340 --> 00:58:19,500
You never go with a hippie to a
second location. It just.

1113
00:58:19,540 --> 00:58:22,380
And then it's six in the morning,
see? Regretting every.

1114
00:58:22,780 --> 00:58:26,180
I'm already in my second dream.
You have a lot of dreams.

1115
00:58:26,180 --> 00:58:28,580
You sleep well.
I think I sleep pretty good.

1116
00:58:28,620 --> 00:58:30,100
You know what?
I stopped smoking weed.

1117
00:58:30,620 --> 00:58:31,860
And you slept better.
You sleep better.

1118
00:58:31,860 --> 00:58:34,780
And I sleep a million times better.
My health is a lot better.

1119
00:58:34,780 --> 00:58:39,140
I'm less inflamed. Oh, yeah?
Yeah, because they say sometimes

1120
00:58:39,140 --> 00:58:41,260
that THC reduces inflammation.
That's what they said.

1121
00:58:41,260 --> 00:58:43,700
But not everybody relaxes
everything differently.

1122
00:58:43,700 --> 00:58:46,370
My gut feels so much better.
Maybe you're eating better

1123
00:58:46,370 --> 00:58:49,130
because you're not high.
That's part. That's part.

1124
00:58:49,250 --> 00:58:52,330
Maybe it's the side effects.
The non greasy chicken

1125
00:58:52,330 --> 00:58:57,410
sandwiches at like 12 midnight.
It's more like oh I got some

1126
00:58:57,410 --> 00:59:00,730
grapes in the fridge.
I have been really into grapes

1127
00:59:00,730 --> 00:59:02,890
lately yo.
I bust down some grapes real quick.

1128
00:59:02,930 --> 00:59:07,370
Put them in the fridge. Oh, man.
Put them in the freezer and then

1129
00:59:07,370 --> 00:59:11,410
put them in your freezer. Guy.
Huh? They get a little too.

1130
00:59:11,410 --> 00:59:13,610
I like them out of the fridge,
but they're good. Out of the freezer.

1131
00:59:13,610 --> 00:59:16,210
Put them in champagne.
Yeah, and then thank me later.

1132
00:59:16,210 --> 00:59:18,890
There's this new dessert they have.
Or it's like a frozen treat at

1133
00:59:18,930 --> 00:59:22,330
sprouts, where it's like grapes just
dipped in sugar. They're frozen.

1134
00:59:22,370 --> 00:59:25,690
It's terrible. It's so bad for you.
Like, it turns the roof of your

1135
00:59:25,690 --> 00:59:29,970
mouth into, like, a war zone.
But turns turns the roof of your

1136
00:59:29,970 --> 00:59:33,050
mouth into Call of Duty.
It's like, sort of a healthier snack,

1137
00:59:33,050 --> 00:59:35,730
but it's like, not, you know,
but it is healthier than eating like,

1138
00:59:35,770 --> 00:59:39,130
a pint of ice cream. Is it though?
Yeah, because they hurt so bad.

1139
00:59:39,130 --> 00:59:41,770
You only eat four of them. Oh.
Fair enough. By the fourth one.

1140
00:59:41,770 --> 00:59:43,010
And you're like, oh my God,
fair enough.

1141
00:59:43,050 --> 00:59:45,920
I sour because they're sour too.
Yeah. No. All right.

1142
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,080
You probably gotta get to this gig,
huh?

1143
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,360
I probably should go,
but I appreciate you having me.

1144
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,520
You got anything you want to plug?
Shows coming up. Oh, yeah.

1145
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,440
The Levitt? Yeah. Levitt.
It's gonna be fun. Free tickets.

1146
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,840
Get on an RSVP. Right. It's free.
Right? It is free. I believe it is.

1147
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,600
Um. Look out for forever, Sinclair.
DM me if you want to smell good.

1148
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,240
Yeah. All the good things.
How much is a bottle?

1149
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,680
Um, I have three different sizes.
Haha. Thanks for asking.

1150
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,360
I appreciate you.
Soft, hard and soft.

1151
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,440
Okay, so this is the everyday travel
size. Whoa. This is 45 bucks.

1152
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,440
They won't stop you with that at TCA.
They sure won't. This is 75.

1153
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,240
It's just a little bit bigger.
And how long would you say that

1154
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,160
lasts?
This size lasts about a couple

1155
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,360
of months if you use it.
Even if you use it every day,

1156
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,320
I think it would last.
It's not an everyday thing.

1157
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,240
About three, three months.
It could be, it could be.

1158
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,520
But I would suggest getting two
and rubbing them together. Ooh.

1159
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,880
Just like this is 120. Whoa.
For, you know, the people who don't

1160
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,240
want to hit me up every three months.
I like the container.

1161
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,990
It kind of looks like a the CBS
makeup department.

1162
01:00:44,030 --> 01:00:48,710
Yeah, I love this, um,
this this little wrap here, I got it.

1163
01:00:48,710 --> 01:00:52,070
You can't probably see,
but it's gold foil. It's expensive.

1164
01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:57,510
Oh, good. Girl. Girl.
I know, you fucking lying child.

1165
01:00:57,550 --> 01:01:01,110
I know you lying.
You got any, uh. What?

1166
01:01:01,110 --> 01:01:03,270
Do you have any motivation or, uh.
That's what Andy always makes

1167
01:01:03,270 --> 01:01:05,030
people do at the end.
You got any, like, a message to

1168
01:01:05,070 --> 01:01:07,510
the people for this week?
Yeah, man. Love everyone.

1169
01:01:07,550 --> 01:01:10,470
Honestly, this world is going to
hell on a scholarship, so please

1170
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:15,710
don't be a part of that. Literally.
Yeah, it is, it is. And it's. Sad.

1171
01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:19,910
Because people don't take loving
other people seriously.

1172
01:01:19,950 --> 01:01:23,990
Like you don't have to go be up
under them, but literally just love,

1173
01:01:24,670 --> 01:01:27,870
love people. It makes a difference.
Or at least leave them alone.

1174
01:01:27,910 --> 01:01:30,070
Yeah, like love them enough to
leave him alone.

1175
01:01:30,110 --> 01:01:33,990
Love him enough to leave him alone.
Quote of the day. I like that.

1176
01:01:34,030 --> 01:01:35,990
Love people enough to leave him
alone. All right. Thanks, Isaac.

1177
01:01:35,990 --> 01:01:39,030
Appreciate you. Andy.
We'll be back next week. Love, Andy.

1178
01:01:39,470 --> 01:01:42,910
I wish I had your fro,
but I don't. Bye, everybody. Bye.