Jackson Wetherbee onJay-Z Telling Him to Drop Out of College and Selling out Red Rocks

Jackson Wetherbee of The Elovaters joins the pod for one of the realest conversations we've had about what it actually takes to "make it" in music.

From getting discovered by Jay-Z at 19… to getting dropped by a major label… to grinding bar gigs for nearly a decade while raising a kid… to finally selling out Red Rocks Amphitheatre — this episode is all about patience, consistency, and staying independent.

We talk:
• The insane story of playing for Jay-Z in person
• Why he dropped out of college after signing to Universal
• Touring in a converted school bus
• Balancing fatherhood with life on the road
• The reggae scene's secret success formula
• Why The Elovaters turned down major label offers
• Nashville songwriting culture
• Stick Figure, Dirty Heads, Pepper & the rise of independent "coastal" music
• Building a career without blowing yourself up along the way

One of the best musician conversations we've had in a minute.