Oct. 13, 2025

Music Industry Harsh Truths, Love is Blind, and Aliens

Music Industry Harsh Truths, Love is Blind, and Aliens
Music Industry Harsh Truths, Love is Blind, and Aliens
Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast
Music Industry Harsh Truths, Love is Blind, and Aliens
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Season 8

This episode of the World Saving Podcast starts silly and quickly turns into a brutally honest look at the music industry in 2025. You will hear unfiltered talk about ego, gatekeeping, inflated touring costs, bus rentals, backline fees, and why festivals feel like a risky bet. It is part therapy session and part industry reality check.

The conversation then widens into community, capitalism, and whether modern music lost its rebel spirit. There is talk about audience expectations, Live Nation headlines, club economics, and what it takes to keep a band on the road. Things get weirdly fun with reality TV chatter about Love Is Blind in Denver, a detour into aliens and UAPs (also known as UFOs), like Atlas, plus how AI and copyright are changing creativity and marketing.

A timely call from comedy legend Todd Glass adds real perspective on progress, history, and why the next generation might actually fix some of this. It is raw, funny, and surprisingly hopeful.

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The World Saving Podcast is part comedy podcast, part music podcast — with raw musician interviews, funny podcast clips, and highlights from Andy's adventures on the road. Each week features musicians, comedians, athletes, or everyday legends.

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Did you buy a new cat or anything? Got a new dog in your life?

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Nope, just one that's dying. You want to talk about that?

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Oh, my God. It's going mad at hell.

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Wow.

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And we're back. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco.

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How's our heads? How's our minds?

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How's the music industry doing?

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Oh, I love it.

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I love the music industry. Yeah, it's so great. It's so fun.

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Is every industry bad?

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It's so fun. It's so fun dealing with everyone.

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I like how there's no narcissist in it.

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Yeah, not one.

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Or people who are like, really have a big ego.

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Or daykeeping.

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Yeah, or pretentiousness.

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Yeah.

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Hollywood wannabe shit, but you live in Denver.

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Isn't it crazy how it's just such a pure industry?

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It's so pure.

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I love it. Yeah. Anyway, how you doing, Nick?

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Good. Just being gatekept.

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Yeah. What if I'm your gatekeeper? I'm like, no one gets funny,

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man, unless I get a little pocket, a little nut.

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That's really wide open for a joke there I'm not going to make.

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Just say it.

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No, because it's racist. No, it's more anti-Semitic, I guess. Is that racist? Ooh.

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Oh. Yeah, that's racist.

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You were even doing the voice. Jesus Christ. What, you were doing the voice even?

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No one gets a little bit till I get a little.

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Yeah, but I'm not going to help him get some either.

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But I'm not going to help him get some either. I'm just going to take. Yeah.

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Oh, so you're an agent.

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No, no. Chill, chill, chill.

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No, I actually like agents. We've been over this.

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Agents bring money What? Agents bring all the money.

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I'm pro-agent actually I'm pro-agent You can actually Quantify what they do What?

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You can quantify what they do Explain Well like if they like You can actually

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There's a hard data to say Like they got you this much money More than you got

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last year True You know what I'm saying?

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Everyone should call their agent Everyone Guys This is what you need to do Say

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I love you Tell your agent how much you love them Yeah.

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Send them 30 bucks

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Hey, grab my... Hey, Bo.

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Send him a Venmo for 30 bucks. Grab my phone.

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I'm going to call John Bon Joi.

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I was an agent for like a year one time. What? I was an agent for a while in like 2012.

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I was too.

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I was actually pretty solid.

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I was actually an agent during 2012 as well. Really?

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For who?

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Myself.

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Oh, okay. I did like some other like...

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I also booked... What's up, Bo? Thank you. Bo's back.

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I worked for Dan.

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Bo's back. He's back in the office.

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I worked for Dan Rosensky.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. I.

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Was pretty good at it For like The bands I was trying to book

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Couple people I want to call.

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One Your agent I

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Want to call Bayless Talk about our Bayless tour I want to talk about Um Let's

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call it Bon Giorno first Bon.

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Giorno Mets are out of it

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Hey You're on the podcast I just want to say hi We're uh,

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You're on the podcast.

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Yep.

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Yep. We're, this is, we're doing, what are we doing today?

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Calling our agent to thank them.

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Calling your agent to tell them thank you for all the work and all the hard

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data. For all the hard data you've been giving us.

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Great metrics this year.

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We just want to say thank you so much for all you do for us.

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Yeah, man.

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Thank you. Thank you for all you guys do. You guys work hard. I don't know.

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You took me on the side here. I haven't even had coffee in like three hours.

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I know. Yeah, well, that's as good. You're not supposed to be crushing a bunch

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of coffee. Your heart's going to explode, John.

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Yeah. Oh, my God.

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I'm trying to get me a Celsius real quick.

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Proven to work.

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We're making sure all our bands, all the bands that listen to us,

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are going to call their agent and tell them how thankful they are that they

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bring all the money to the business.

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So I just want to say thank you so much for all that you do for us.

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Thank you for believing in us since the beginning.

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There's no bullshit here. We're just saying thank you.

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Yeah, it's going to be nine years next year.

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Whoa.

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Yeah, what'd you say? How was your fifth tenure?

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What's a nine-year anniversary?

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Yeah, I think on my roster, if you look at it today, I think he's been on the

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roster the fifth longest of everybody, which, you know, I think that's true.

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Hold on, let me check real quick. I don't know.

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It feels like the right answer. Let's see if he's been longer. Okay.

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That would be Wood. Well, Sean Obama doesn't do it. So, Les Claypool,

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Dillon's Escape Plan. Oh.

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Okay.

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They've been around that long.

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That's three. New Master Sounds. That's four. My dudes.

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And that's...

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But they're about to be dumped.

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And Dweezil Zappa is five, so you're six.

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Let's fucking go. Who's five? Dweezil Zappa.

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Oh, nice.

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He has the longest, actually. He's 20 years.

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Holy shit.

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I know. I was like in middle school looking at Dweezil Zappa shows.

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Well, John, I just want to, you know, no bullshit aside. There's no prerogative

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here. I just want to say thank you. Thank you for all your help.

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It's my prerogative.

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Thank you. I'm working so hard and always being there to, you know,

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always showing up and never canceling shows except for that one time. Except that one time.

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You felt so guilty that time.

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I know.

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You couldn't get over it. You were like, you know, you lived to the gym.

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I don't cancel shows. I'm always there for people, right? I'm always there for people. Yep.

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Never cancel shows by hell or what you can swim across the ocean.

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As long as that deposit goes through.

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I think I've always been there I'll see you Wednesday At the meeting buddy I'll

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talk to you soon Alright Love you buddy Bye The weekly meeting There John Bongiorno Thank.

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You Kiss your agent

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He knows exactly Why I did that.

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I don't actually know What's going on right now But I can kind of Figure it out I guess

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No Nothing There's no prerogative There's no gaslighting.

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Prerogative means choice

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Yeah I have a choice Okay.

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I don't know If you're exactly Doing that word right But okay you got a

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Better There's no gaslighting There's no passive aggressiveness I just wanted

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to thank Thank the agent for bringing us a majority of the money.

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That's all. Can I hear that? How you doing?

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I'm good. I'm a little tired, but I'm pretty good in general.

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Yeah. Looking forward to a great week.

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What are you tired of?

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Just like tired. I don't know.

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You know what I'm tired of? Let me fucking tell you.

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Oh, God.

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Gas prices.

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Hotel costs. Flight costs.

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Okay. All right. That's all. Gas is. Is it high right now? I never even look.

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What?

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At gas prices, it's just like nothing I can do about it.

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Nothing I can do about it. When people complain about gas prices,

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it's like it's magic juice that makes you go 80 miles an hour and you're complaining about it.

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No, no, no.

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You ever think about that, though?

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And then the people who complain are the ones who forcefully bought a car that

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only has like six miles per gallon. Yeah, exactly.

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You don't need that Ford or F-150. You're a salesman for an insurance company. You don't need to.

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What do you know about that? people bitch about gas, but they like,

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they're paying $700 a month for a fucking car that only has six miles per guy.

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And then they Uber everywhere because they're alcoholics.

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Dude, you know what? Fuck. By the way,

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Fuck the DMV I was there all day today For what?

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I've been on tour for 7 months And my tags are,

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No you do it online They won't let me I had to go inside And then they took

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me to some machine that does it automatically And then they wouldn't let me

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even get the tags So now I have to ride dirty For another 2 months until,

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2026 tags are ready to go.

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On your personal vehicle? Yes Well, luckily no one in Denver gets a shit about

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that and no one gets pulled over.

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I've gone two tickets now. Parking tickets, but like with my tags expired.

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I have a friend.

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Fuck you, Cherry Creek.

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I won't say who he is. He has 2021 registration on his car and he hasn't gotten

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pulled over once. In Denver?

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Damn.

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They got bigger problems here, I guess.

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Damn.

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You don't really see a lot of cops. I don't want to jinx myself.

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I don't want to jinx myself. Yeah. No, I'm not trying to jinx myself.

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I drove to Blackhawk and I was like driving dirty, but I also was sober.

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Did you gamble? I just had a meeting with the bosses of Volume. Shout out.

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Yesterday?

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Yeah. He took me out to dinner.

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How'd it go?

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It was good. He loves, he thinks our podcast is really popping off.

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Numbers are up. And he likes to thank Jack.

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Yeah, the numbers have gone, this is the highest our numbers have been for a long time.

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Yeah.

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So I like to thank Jack. I like to thank Matt. I like to thank Eva.

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I like to thank you. Thanks, Nick.

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A thankless cog in the wheel.

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Didn't you like when I said, oh, yeah, me and Nick have a podcast together.

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We're fucking partners. What's the podcast name? Andy Frasco's World Saved Podcast.

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Was that on again? Where was that? Was that on tour, like talking to somebody? I can't remember.

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We were talking to someone on the weekend.

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That was really funny, though. Yeah, you're like, yeah, we have a podcast together.

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We're equal partners. Everything is equal and we're the same.

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What's it called? Andy Frasco's podcast.

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The Andy Frasco podcast featuring Andy Frasco, a special guest Andy Frasco.

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Produced by Andy Frasco, directed by Andy Frasco. edited by Andy Frasco yeah yeah yeah,

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I'm sorry for.

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I don't care I think it's funny actually so I don't care

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Do you think I am.

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Like that? No I mean it was called that before I was on it

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No do you think I am like that? Do you think I share the ball?

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Yeah you're fine I've never been pissed at you about anything like that Because we've

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Had a little band drama.

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Here we go

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Lock in people We've had a little band.

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Drama Everybody just went like this in their car. Everybody just lean forward

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like it was the end of a Madden game.

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We've had a whole band drama and, you know, we're just kind of just laying our cards out on the table.

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I mean, I realize we haven't done that ever in the existence of our career, 15 years. Really?

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You've never laid the cards out?

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I've never laid the cards out.

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Ultimatum style?

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Ultimatum and just what I want. You know?

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Yeah. I always just kind of, it was really freeing to

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me to finally say exactly what i wanted yeah

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in something instead of just like keeping it in

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because you didn't don't want to like um piss people

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off you know like i i think the reason why i get passive aggressive because

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i'm afraid to talk to actually communicate so i don't communicate which makes

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me passive aggressive which also means i'm basically fighting with my own fucking

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head right for not actually being honest does that make sense it.

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Makes sense there's a i think it helps that you're more successful like you

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can be more like that when you're more successful like 10 years ago you just

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kind of have to take what you can get you know right when it comes that's true

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when it comes to band members it's like what are you gonna do like ask someone

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to come work for you for 75 bucks a week

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And then tell them exactly what you're doing wrong yeah you.

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Gotta pay a certain amount of money before you can be bossy

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Yeah well i always feel bad about that because you know we all started this

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we all started music because it was free you know it made us feel free you know

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it made us feel like rock and why i started rock and roll is because in my imaginary

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head now i realize it's completely,

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fucking off i know man the music industry is the least freeing thing on the planet well.

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I don't know about that that would be bold on the point yeah i know what you

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mean though Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. In entertainment.

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Least freeing thing versus what you thought was free.

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Okay, that's fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like there's other things that are

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terrible. Of course. But you know they're terrible.

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Yeah, I overjad her. I'll never forget. When I first started dating Julie,

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I don't know, she'd start going to backstage and stuff and thought it was fun.

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And she's like, the music industry is such a beautiful thing.

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And I was like, bitch, wait six months.

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Now what she's saying about the music industry. Now she works in it.

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I know what she's saying about it. She hates everybody, man.

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No, not really. But she definitely, like, doesn't suffer fools,

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you know? There's a lot of weird ego going around these days.

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Well, yeah, it's like...

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Everybody's trying to make up for their failures. Chill, chill,

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chill. It's not their fault they failed. I'm just saying, like...

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You're never going to, almost no musician gets to where they dreamed of.

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Oh, you're saying as a whole.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I mean, it takes a lot to be a fucking musician.

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There's no guarantees.

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I'm not trying to like woo is me bullshit.

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Mm-hmm. But it takes a lot to fucking make this your full-time job.

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Girl, you ain't lying.

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And it's not like, you have to be fucking dedicated.

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Yeah. And if you're not dedicated to it 120%, it's going to fucking eat you up.

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Just getting good at your instrument.

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Exactly.

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Just that level.

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And that's 10% of it.

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That's like the least important thing now. It's just sort of annoying, right?

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Or just like you get to the point where you're a really good musician,

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but you're also at that point where everyone who graduated college is a good

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musician. So how are you going to stand out? Right.

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I think a lot of people have a problem like with embarrassing them.

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Like it's a little embarrassing to promote yourself. You know what I'm saying?

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I think that kills a lot of people early. They don't want to like put themselves

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out there because they get shamed. I don't know.

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Everyone calls me a cheap ass because I haven't moved up to a big ass tour bus.

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I'm like, what's the point?

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What's the also like, once you go there, your band and everyone,

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your crew is expecting you to be on a tour bus.

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They're already divas. When I got them to the bandwagon.

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It's not that much different than the bandwagon. Is it?

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There's a little more space, but a little, but not really.

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But I mean, you know, compared to where you were two years ago,

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You can't, you can never go backwards. The minute you start going backwards,

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everyone starts fucking over-guessing, the fans saying, oh, this band dropped

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off, or this band dropped off.

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Oh, we're expecting one thing. We want that now.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You know, you can't.

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So like- Yeah, armchair quarterbacks.

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Yeah, armchair quarterbacks.

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Jam band fans are really bad about that, actually. Yeah. They love to get involved

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in the business shit. It's like fancy football for them or something.

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But like, the fans have no idea how much it actually costs. No.

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They're just fucking, they're playing fantasy football coach.

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Yeah, exactly.

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That's what's bullshit. And then that puts more pressure on the musician that's

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already having pressure internally.

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And it's like they revel in it. They like want people to fail weirdly.

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You know what I'm talking about?

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I don't understand that shit. I don't get, when did we get to a society where

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we are looking forward to people's failures more than we're looking forward

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to our people's successes?

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The American way.

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But I think that's the problem. The American dream made people so competitive

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that we don't have each other's backs anymore.

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But it's like these people aren't even in music. They're just fans and they're

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still rooting. And then they root for one band against... I don't know. It's so stupid.

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But it's even with like...

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How do I explain this without fucking burning it? But it's even with people who get...

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It's even people with setting up festivals or setting up tours.

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They're always going to pick what benefits the business instead of benefiting...

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Maybe the musician wants this band to come on tour.

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Martians are razor thin. That's why everybody's operating in a very low budget.

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I know, but if margins are super thin, we all got to work together and kind

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of play ball with each other.

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Yeah.

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Tour bus is inflating their costs just because they can.

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That's insane.

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Fucking up the living economy of touring that makes bands not want to tour.

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And then they wonder why they're inflated it because now bands are like,

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no, I'm good. I'm making money off fucking.

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Bandwagon.

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Bandwagon or Twitch.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's like they don't realize the ripple effect of not being in this together.

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Right, because they're like in that weird capitalist mindset where they're like

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focused on right now instead of five years from now.

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And that's why a lot of those tour bus companies will probably go out of business at some point.

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Yeah. Tour buses are going to go out of business.

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They did it to themselves.

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They did it to themselves. They overinflated when they're still trying to play

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catch up from five years ago during COVID. They're caught up,

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dude. They're caught up.

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I'm sorry. You're caught up.

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Start balancing the checkbooks a little bit.

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Yeah, dude. Don't you want to build a relationship with your clients?

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Tour bus companies, they piss me off so much.

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It's a racket.

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So is...

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So is rental gear companies.

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Yeah.

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They overcharge. For sure. Because they know you have to.

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200 bucks for a keyboard for an hour or something.

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They've already made their money on it. I know it's a business.

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Yeah.

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But like.

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What do they charge you? 10% of the cost of the instrument?

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You wonder why these promoters aren't, festival promoters aren't making any money because.

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Uh-huh.

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They're getting overcharged by the stage company. Yeah. They're getting overcharged.

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Port-a-potties.

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By the port-a-potties. They're getting overcharged.

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Fencing. Fencing. So much shit goes into it.

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Rental gear.

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Security.

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They're getting overtrived by all that stuff.

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Undercover cops.

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And this is where I feel bad for, this is why I don't blame promoters for saying,

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fuck this. I don't want to do a festival anymore.

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Yeah, I'll go work in finance. Fuck it. Yeah. If you're going to be miserable,

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you might as well have a job where you make money.

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And, you know. And I feel like that's what musicians are doing too.

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You're mad today. I like it.

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I'm not mad.

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You know what I mean.

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I'm just disappointed.

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Like a kid that got like C's on the report card

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I'm not mad I'm just disappointed

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I'm just not you know When do we become a country,

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That is just We're just so We just think of just ourselves Reagan,

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And that's not a community And that's why I think what makes me sad Is we become

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people Who are if you're Not in my four people echo chamber.

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I do not give a fuck about you. Yeah.

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And I don't care. I'm protecting my herd or whatever.

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Mm-hmm.

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But...

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Which is fine, but also we have to think about others, and we have to fucking

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play ball all around with different ideas, different landscapes,

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different ideologies, different thoughts, you know?

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Yeah, I'm with you, 100%. I just don't think it's going to change.

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It's never going to change. That's what makes me sad. I got in this rock and roll as rebellion.

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Yeah, it was.

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When did we stop being rebellious?

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Imagine Dragons, maybe?

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Actually, that's a good point.

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As soon as it Target commercials with Imagine Dragons. I mean, you know what I mean?

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When did we stop being rebellious as a country?

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I'm telling you.

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America was a fucking rebel.

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The 80s. I'm telling you. It's all Reagan. Okay, explain this.

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It's just people started getting rich in the 80s and the whole finance thing

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and cocaine probably how it didn't hurt and just, you know, nationalism and I don't know.

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I just think it all started in the 80s. The 70s didn't really feel like that, did it?

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Yeah.

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But that's kind of when rock music started sucking. right about the it was more than 90s but

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Bands don't have each other's backs anymore no.

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It's like sports

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It's sports everything's competitive everybody talks

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you're on like the same management company or the same agency

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company no one's giving other bands a shot they're just going back to the well

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passive aggressive and everyone's pissed off about how successful they are nepo

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babies yeah i'm like i'm i'm the first time in my life i'm cool with my success yeah.

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You're You're doing

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Great. Yeah, but I could judge my success on other people that I used to do.

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Slippery slope.

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Yeah, and I feel free that way. But the minute I started doing that,

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it's the minute I started...

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getting lazy with my competition.

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You know what you should do is also compare yourself to people who are doing much worse than you.

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We don't punch down, Nick.

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No, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying make fun of them. I'm just saying you gotta look at...

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No, and that's what I've done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's more of...

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We're losing the sense of community because we're making this so fucking competitive.

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Yeah.

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And that's what I... That's not the reason why I joined rock and roll.

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Is there too many bands?

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If it was individual... I would have been a fucking band manager,

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which I was. Yeah, you're probably good at it. I was already a band manager.

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I'm sure you were good at it.

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For people who are listening to this podcast, I've already been a band manager.

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Why are they?

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Just, I don't know. I gotta speak subliminally, I can't.

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You're doing your wizard thing, I don't know, I don't understand it.

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I don't know, I don't understand passive aggressive stuff sometimes, I'm not very good at it.

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I'm not passive aggressive.

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Okay.

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I am more of, I've been in this industry for a long fucking time.

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And I think it's important that I have a say in this industry too.

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Yeah, of course. You're the one making all the, like generating all the income.

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Not in my individual business. Oh, okay. I'm saying the people who are making the gatekeeping stuff.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Should bring the people in who fucking did the dark work for 20 years. That's true.

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Who was in the nid and gritty. Who knows what it takes to promote a show.

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Not the people who gave up on music when they're 20 and now they're 60 years old.

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You're speaking my language here, dude.

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And they're the ones running the things where they have no idea.

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They haven't been to fucking Manhattan, Kansas.

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Yeah, they haven't been anywhere, really.

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Right. Yeah. And that's what frustrates me.

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Those are my leads for people in the music industry.

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Why are they pushing us out?

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Because they're nerds. I don't mean, they're just,

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They're jealous. No, it's competitive.

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Well, that too, but competitive and jealous kind of all goes together.

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Is this crazy talk right now, Jack?

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You think so? Am I really being that crazy right now?

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No, you're being pretty much 100% correct, actually.

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But it's not like, I'm not attacking anyone. This is a broad stroke. Yeah, broad stroke.

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This isn't on my individual pains.

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It's on the industry's individual pains of how we're going to figure out how

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to make this music industry successful for another 100 years to the next generation. Yeah. Right?

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Yeah, or 10 years even. 10?

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Fuck, 3?

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Yeah, it's not going good right now.

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It's not going good. No one's buying tickets.

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No, everything's doing bad.

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Everything's inflated. The fucking CEO of Live Nation said they should be more expensive tickets.

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That guy pissed me off so bad, dude.

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That's what I'm saying.

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The guy making $150 million a year.

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What are we doing here?

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What does he do that he gets $150 million a year off concert tickets?

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We're not doing it for the money.

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No.

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Well, some people are. But musicians don't make any money.

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Yeah, no one's like, I'm going to play saxophone so I'm going to be rich someday.

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No. We lost the meaning of why we're doing music. And that is what makes me sad.

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Yeah. I'm with you on that.

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You know, we played music for the get out, the getaway.

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I'm sorry. This is a 24 minute rant. I like it. It'll be more fun later.

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Yeah. Just stick around.

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We'll be live nation hit 7 billion in revenue for second quarter.

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So that's 28 billion for the year. You know, assuming like it's ever all equal.

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How much of that's profit though?

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$6 billion in profit.

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Yeah, fucking, come on, dude. That's a country.

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Yeah.

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That's a country in Europe.

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And you want to charge more for tickets.

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And this guy already makes $150 million a year. And I'm not, you know,

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We all have to play ball. I'm not talking shit.

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I'm not either, but fuck that guy kind of though.

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What, the CEO?

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Yeah.

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Whatever. It's whatever. He's the CEO trying to make more money for his company. That's different.

00:24:14.370 --> 00:24:15.370
I guess, but.

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What we have to figure out as a community for live music and how we're going to keep all these.

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I'm talking about the vendors who fucking do the festivals, the festival promoters

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who now aren't taking risks to do festivals anymore.

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That's most of our bottom line for musicians, especially in the jam scene.

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We make money off fucking summer festivals.

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We don't make money off club shows because the venues are charging too much

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for the rooms, yada, yada.

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we all need to be in a line together to say everyone the bout we need to balance this shit what.

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You're calling for is a union almost

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I'm sounding like a real socialist right.

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Now yeah but

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You're sounding like bernie sounders right now old bernie sanders the problem.

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With that is like we can never have a musician's union because all the musicians

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would have to do it together and they're never going to do that

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But everyone needs to like say okay i get the old model worked but it's like,

00:25:16.190 --> 00:25:22.590
from CD to digital you know everyone had great model when we were selling CDs

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yeah we went to digital they changed the model yeah it should be the same while

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we're losing all these big festivals yeah that's all I'm saying.

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That makes sense

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Anyway how was your day my day better than yours am I gonna get in trouble for that why.

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Did you even say that was you didn't even attack anybody I know you were being very broad

00:25:43.990 --> 00:25:47.810
I'm just It's just fucking It's just like Everyone's like We're a team We're

00:25:47.810 --> 00:25:51.470
a fucking team We're a team brother We're a team We're the music industry We're

00:25:51.470 --> 00:25:54.950
a fuck We're the outlaws We're the outlaws Oh really?

00:25:55.370 --> 00:25:58.710
Mm-hmm Then let's be a team Let's actually be a team Yeah.

00:25:58.710 --> 00:26:00.030
Until it's time To pick your openers

00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:10.060
It's like our seventh evil frasco. Here he is.

00:26:10.180 --> 00:26:13.140
My headphones are cutting out. There we go. I'm back.

00:26:13.420 --> 00:26:14.200
Am I wrong?

00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:19.260
No, you're right. That's the problem. That's why you're mad.

00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:22.540
Am I wrong, Jack? Bo, am I wrong?

00:26:24.260 --> 00:26:25.440
He's seen the P&Ls.

00:26:25.500 --> 00:26:29.360
I'm working our ass off out here. Bo is fucking working. He's the hardest working man.

00:26:29.560 --> 00:26:30.440
In show business.

00:26:30.460 --> 00:26:31.580
In fucking show business.

00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:32.740
Yeah, dude. He works for you.

00:26:33.300 --> 00:26:37.920
He's on that and he's on ***. He's on everything. You know what I'm saying?

00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:41.140
Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, bleep ***. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bleep ***.

00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:45.040
But, you know, but you know what I'm saying.

00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:45.820
I'm with you 100%.

00:26:45.820 --> 00:26:51.920
These type of guys deserve the talking to for everyone leveling out the industry. Not me. Mm-hmm.

00:26:52.280 --> 00:26:55.600
You're fighting for the guys who are running lights. Yeah. You're fighting for

00:26:55.600 --> 00:26:56.760
the guys who are engineers.

00:26:57.000 --> 00:26:57.260
Monitors.

00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:00.400
Everyone who runs the syllabus of the business.

00:27:00.600 --> 00:27:07.700
Not just the suits in the fucking 30-foot floor, the 30th floor delegating work.

00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:09.340
Someone needs to fight for those guys.

00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:11.500
The guys that don't go to the show unless it's in L.A.

00:27:11.500 --> 00:27:15.060
Oh, man, my dad's going to fucking hate these. Like, you turned into a real socialist.

00:27:15.260 --> 00:27:15.940
Yeah, but you're right.

00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:16.660
I know!

00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:19.580
You're not being a communist, at least.

00:27:19.740 --> 00:27:24.820
No. Ew. I'm not saying even shitty musicians need to make the same amount as money.

00:27:24.820 --> 00:27:26.080
No, there's also too many bands.

00:27:26.800 --> 00:27:29.720
I don't know. I think less and less bands are coming out than ever.

00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:32.920
Yeah, maybe there's too many musicians actually Well,

00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:38.140
We all got sold The American dream that you could do whatever you want Yeah, that's a lie,

00:27:39.580 --> 00:27:44.840
Maybe it was Back then when there was less people But now overpopulation Now

00:27:44.840 --> 00:27:50.020
you can't do whatever you want It's about how hard you're gonna work To get what you want Then.

00:27:50.020 --> 00:27:50.520
You might still

00:27:50.520 --> 00:27:53.600
Fail And you might still fail and you gotta be okay with that But at least in

00:27:53.600 --> 00:27:55.340
your brain you fucking tried Yeah.

00:27:55.340 --> 00:27:57.840
It's better to fail than not try

00:28:00.560 --> 00:28:01.000
Rebellion.

00:28:01.320 --> 00:28:02.980
This is why we're in the music industry.

00:28:03.140 --> 00:28:03.780
People. Yeah.

00:28:04.120 --> 00:28:07.340
Don't be as scared to rebel. All right.

00:28:09.250 --> 00:28:12.790
So you got, did you buy a new cat or anything? Got a new dog in your life or?

00:28:12.970 --> 00:28:15.430
Nope. Just one that's dying. You want to talk about that?

00:28:19.130 --> 00:28:22.630
Oh my God. It's going mad in hell.

00:28:22.970 --> 00:28:25.770
I'm just not mad. I'm not mad. I'm more just like.

00:28:26.010 --> 00:28:26.350
You're not wrong.

00:28:26.790 --> 00:28:31.610
I'm like past mad. I'm just like kind of defeated. And that's what bones me out.

00:28:31.730 --> 00:28:34.370
Yeah. I got to know what inspired this today.

00:28:34.790 --> 00:28:35.190
What?

00:28:35.430 --> 00:28:37.110
I got to know what inspired this today.

00:28:37.110 --> 00:28:39.850
Um i don't want to get into it

00:28:39.850 --> 00:28:43.370
the main details are not important it's

00:28:43.370 --> 00:28:46.570
just the the syllabus of how how we're

00:28:46.570 --> 00:28:49.990
running this industry is um unethical to

00:28:49.990 --> 00:28:53.070
how i yeah that's true the reason why

00:28:53.070 --> 00:28:56.130
i joined the music industry when i was fucking 11 years old reading

00:28:56.130 --> 00:28:59.050
all you need to know about the music industry by donald pass in

00:28:59.050 --> 00:29:01.730
my first ever book at 11 years old i read

00:29:01.730 --> 00:29:05.070
that book in guerrilla marketing and i'm like and it's

00:29:05.070 --> 00:29:08.070
the same reason why i got fucking fired at geffen records at

00:29:08.070 --> 00:29:11.290
19 when i wrote them a 200 page fucking i

00:29:11.290 --> 00:29:14.530
wrote her pages i wrote a 200 page business outlook of

00:29:14.530 --> 00:29:20.510
how we can approach this is 06 right after napster when everyone's the stealing's

00:29:20.510 --> 00:29:25.270
done now it's going to spotify and like new world and i wrote this whole beautiful

00:29:25.270 --> 00:29:29.890
marketing plan beautiful i sound like trump there i sound i wrote this i wrote

00:29:29.890 --> 00:29:33.410
this great marketing plan and they fired me they.

00:29:33.410 --> 00:29:34.770
Probably took all your ideas and fired

00:29:34.770 --> 00:29:38.610
They fucking fired me that was

00:29:38.610 --> 00:29:42.230
that was when i started become evil andy evil andy

00:29:42.230 --> 00:29:45.370
just like i'm gonna start a i'm gonna start a new form

00:29:45.370 --> 00:29:48.170
of how musicians i'm i'm gonna

00:29:48.170 --> 00:29:51.090
teach musicians how to fucking be self-sufficient with

00:29:51.090 --> 00:29:56.870
their shit how to be fucking powerful in your own world and not relying on others

00:29:56.870 --> 00:30:02.650
to for your success the only way you are six your success is if you put fucking

00:30:02.650 --> 00:30:08.810
ownership in the work ethic that you fucking do i'm gonna clap for myself thank you.

00:30:09.990 --> 00:30:12.670
So you've been watching Love is Blind at all?

00:30:12.830 --> 00:30:16.670
Yeah, I love Love is Blind. That pisses me off too.

00:30:16.930 --> 00:30:20.530
I'm like, I moved to Denver because we're fucking weird. And I saw fucking Love

00:30:20.530 --> 00:30:25.770
is Blind and they fucking, I told you, I got through, I was going to be on that show.

00:30:25.950 --> 00:30:27.310
No, I didn't even hear about this.

00:30:27.710 --> 00:30:28.750
Yeah, I didn't tell you this last year?

00:30:28.830 --> 00:30:29.150
No, no.

00:30:29.450 --> 00:30:31.350
Dude, the producer called me up

00:30:31.350 --> 00:30:36.550
and said, hey, you're like a famous single person in Denver. Love is gay.

00:30:39.070 --> 00:30:42.730
i'm like you know so i was thinking about like that'd be fun to do yeah but

00:30:42.730 --> 00:30:46.810
also fucking you gotta get married terrorizing though right well they they start

00:30:46.810 --> 00:30:51.510
you know they start nick picking yeah yeah yeah your personal flaws how.

00:30:51.510 --> 00:30:54.710
Christian are you how many kids do you want to have yeah it's the most boring

00:30:54.710 --> 00:30:55.850
people i've ever seen in my life

00:30:55.850 --> 00:30:59.090
But they shouldn't you know bo had a good point they should do a little more

00:30:59.090 --> 00:31:01.750
of the other side of fucking denver yeah it's.

00:31:01.750 --> 00:31:04.450
Like It's all like CU Boulder finance graduates.

00:31:04.830 --> 00:31:08.690
Yeah, they had a guy selling watches in Dillon. Like, who fucking buys watches in Dillon?

00:31:08.810 --> 00:31:11.070
Also, what kind of... No wonder you're single.

00:31:11.390 --> 00:31:14.010
Like, the homie's wearing a $200,000 Paddock watch.

00:31:14.130 --> 00:31:14.530
Oh, really?

00:31:14.970 --> 00:31:21.670
I was like... Damn. This is not a fucking Colorado... This isn't who I see at fucking Don's.

00:31:21.770 --> 00:31:24.150
No. Or this isn't the fucking crowd I see at Cervantes.

00:31:24.210 --> 00:31:26.410
And they're all, like, weirdly, kind of weirdly conservative.

00:31:26.430 --> 00:31:28.930
I don't mean politically. I'm just talking about, like, their lifestyle.

00:31:29.190 --> 00:31:31.630
Yeah. They're like... Like, where's the... No one has the bag on them.

00:31:31.630 --> 00:31:33.610
I've never seen a Tanner in Denver.

00:31:33.790 --> 00:31:36.330
No, I don't see him anywhere. It's like none of these guys has the bag on them.

00:31:36.390 --> 00:31:39.630
This is Denver, dude. One of these guys got to have the bag on them. Yeah.

00:31:39.910 --> 00:31:44.810
Someone told me one of the guys, the real estate broker, has like scammed like fucking 50 people.

00:31:44.830 --> 00:31:46.830
Julian was telling me that. He's scammed my favorite Asian restaurant.

00:31:47.070 --> 00:31:47.690
What'd he do?

00:31:47.870 --> 00:31:50.210
I don't know. She just said he scammed him, but who knows? He probably just

00:31:50.210 --> 00:31:53.890
like fucked him over in some deal. Oh, yeah. How are you going to scam over immigrants?

00:31:54.990 --> 00:31:57.030
Ryan Dempsey. Uh-oh. Ryan.

00:31:58.860 --> 00:32:01.700
Hey, Ryan, you're on the podcast.

00:32:02.900 --> 00:32:05.600
Oh, good. I'm happy to be on your podcast.

00:32:06.140 --> 00:32:08.560
Ryan Dempsey from Twiddle. Give it up for Ryan. Hey, Ryan.

00:32:09.380 --> 00:32:09.660
Yay!

00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:11.640
Can I clap? Yeah.

00:32:12.760 --> 00:32:16.820
What's going on? What do you know about these aliens? Good.

00:32:17.260 --> 00:32:20.300
Things are getting so crazy right now.

00:32:21.780 --> 00:32:29.500
Congress is literally like they're all looking into you UAPs.

00:32:29.700 --> 00:32:43.280
So the word UFO became UAPs, and there are the anomalies that can go from one to 300,000 miles.

00:32:43.700 --> 00:32:53.080
I mean, yeah, like in the ocean, my friend from the Navy says they go one to 300,000 miles an hour.

00:32:53.120 --> 00:32:54.480
Oh my God, it's nuts.

00:32:54.480 --> 00:33:03.800
And the weird part, though, is they also know exactly where the jets that are

00:33:03.800 --> 00:33:08.620
chasing them and firing missiles are going to land.

00:33:09.220 --> 00:33:13.760
And they fired a missile at it, and it just kind of just blew it apart.

00:33:14.360 --> 00:33:14.880
Oh, yeah.

00:33:16.460 --> 00:33:18.620
They're way smarter than us.

00:33:18.700 --> 00:33:21.620
Do you think they're here to harm us? So the thing they're here to say,

00:33:21.940 --> 00:33:25.140
we, you guys, I know you guys have the matches. You're going to stop.

00:33:27.500 --> 00:33:32.740
I, I would say the same thing. Like the kids have the matches.

00:33:33.180 --> 00:33:36.380
I think dad's coming home and saying you need to stop.

00:33:37.380 --> 00:33:40.000
So let's fucking, let's all take care of each other, you know,

00:33:40.040 --> 00:33:45.340
lock in and lock in. Yeah, baby, let's lock it. Atlas is coming. We better lock in.

00:33:46.180 --> 00:33:47.240
What's lock in.

00:33:48.860 --> 00:33:50.600
Atlas is coming. Lock it.

00:33:50.760 --> 00:33:50.900
Yeah.

00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:59.700
Andy, can I ask you for like a hundred grand and I promise I'll pay you back?

00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:03.260
Shit, my phone's dying, Dempsey. I got to call you back. Sorry.

00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:08.880
Hey, bud, I do owe you a call. Let me get through this podcast and I'll call you today.

00:34:10.140 --> 00:34:13.320
I love you, buddy. Thanks for answering. Love you, bud. Love you, bud.

00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:21.000
You love your bands, don't you? You really love your bands. If you really want

00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.700
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00:34:23.700 --> 00:34:26.460
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00:34:26.900 --> 00:34:33.160
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00:34:33.380 --> 00:34:36.400
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00:34:36.520 --> 00:34:41.320
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00:34:41.580 --> 00:34:44.260
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00:34:44.260 --> 00:34:47.480
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00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.960
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00:34:51.140 --> 00:34:55.140
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00:34:55.580 --> 00:34:59.440
Anyway, aliens to the music industry. What else do you want to talk about?

00:34:59.680 --> 00:35:01.780
Jesus Christ. What a fucking episode.

00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:04.480
Halftime show?

00:35:04.740 --> 00:35:06.560
Oh, yeah. Love is blind.

00:35:06.780 --> 00:35:07.200
Love is blind.

00:35:07.680 --> 00:35:12.960
Then I was pissed. Then this whole week has been crazy. Then I was kind of pissed. It's a J.Crew.

00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.300
Commercial. It looks like a J.Crew commercial in that fucking shit.

00:35:15.300 --> 00:35:18.960
I'm like, Love is Blind is really going to portray Denver, my fucking hometown?

00:35:19.380 --> 00:35:20.520
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I fucking love.

00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:22.620
Douchebags. It looks like they all like-

00:35:23.200 --> 00:35:26.480
I was like, but I'm getting sidebars. Like, you live here, bro?

00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:28.680
I'm like, you're watching Love is Blind too, bro.

00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:30.260
Looks like a Chainsmokers crowd.

00:35:33.600 --> 00:35:35.200
Trying to inject some comedy into this.

00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:41.600
Let's call Bayless. Let's call Bayless.

00:35:42.160 --> 00:35:42.520
Oh.

00:35:43.720 --> 00:35:44.560
Wow, what a...

00:35:44.560 --> 00:35:45.940
He might be picking up the kids at school.

00:35:46.140 --> 00:35:48.880
The Bayless Frasco tour was amazing. We'll talk about that for a second.

00:35:50.930 --> 00:35:57.510
He knows. If I'm calling him at 320, he knows. He might be baseball. Oh. Call me.

00:35:59.710 --> 00:36:01.590
Jack, how we feeling about this episode, bud?

00:36:04.410 --> 00:36:06.730
I actually think it's kind of good. It's not like hilarious,

00:36:06.830 --> 00:36:08.990
but I think it's good. You know what I mean?

00:36:10.310 --> 00:36:11.070
It's thumping.

00:36:11.250 --> 00:36:12.130
It's better than nothing.

00:36:12.450 --> 00:36:16.450
Oh, look it. Life's not always going to be fucking roses and butterflies. Nope.

00:36:16.670 --> 00:36:17.850
Almost never is, actually.

00:36:18.830 --> 00:36:21.310
The festival is fun, though. Holy smokes.

00:36:21.650 --> 00:36:25.310
Yeah, I want to hear about this. So you went to Cleveland of all places and had a festival.

00:36:25.550 --> 00:36:29.810
We did. I can't. Little Stranger is really big in Ohio.

00:36:30.210 --> 00:36:30.430
Really?

00:36:30.670 --> 00:36:35.250
And we're decently big. We'll do pretty well in Columbus. It was a good meeting

00:36:35.250 --> 00:36:38.030
of the minds, but that fucking Nelson's Legends. I loved it.

00:36:38.070 --> 00:36:39.210
It's a great place. Yeah.

00:36:39.550 --> 00:36:41.650
But some of the people who run that thing is pretty wild.

00:36:41.870 --> 00:36:42.250
Scary, huh?

00:36:42.350 --> 00:36:44.310
They're like Hell's Angels and shit running that shit.

00:36:44.650 --> 00:36:44.730
Yeah.

00:36:45.170 --> 00:36:52.670
They had one person. Cause they also Like It was a great experience Like 2,600 people showed up 2,600.

00:36:52.670 --> 00:36:53.570
Browns fans Hell

00:36:53.570 --> 00:36:56.830
Yeah And it was like Only We only had three weeks To promote it I know So it

00:36:56.830 --> 00:37:01.330
was like People really wanted to come But also like Right next to the campgrounds

00:37:01.330 --> 00:37:06.070
There's like Where people Like people just rent Like a fucking trailer park

00:37:06.070 --> 00:37:06.730
Or whatever There's camping,

00:37:07.770 --> 00:37:11.810
That part of the area A lot of people Were getting kicked out For like smoking crack and shit Oh shit.

00:37:11.810 --> 00:37:15.690
Hell yeah But that was not associated With the festival Yeah

00:37:16.230 --> 00:37:19.370
No. It was like, it was just, the place is so beautiful. Yeah.

00:37:19.570 --> 00:37:22.650
I've been there. It's awesome. I played a couple festivals there actually.

00:37:22.750 --> 00:37:26.370
But we had a fucking blast and we went in the crowd and it showed how much love.

00:37:26.650 --> 00:37:29.910
They just wanted a stranger and us to throw a festival and I think,

00:37:30.630 --> 00:37:32.050
we're going to do it every year, right?

00:37:32.290 --> 00:37:34.250
Should we do it every year? We probably should. Little Strangler.

00:37:34.390 --> 00:37:36.870
Huge success. That's my cereal. I mean, that was more people,

00:37:36.870 --> 00:37:39.470
more people showed to them than a lot of these festivals were going to.

00:37:39.590 --> 00:37:41.910
For sure. That's my cereal co-name actually I just realized.

00:37:42.090 --> 00:37:43.130
What? Little Strangler.

00:37:43.310 --> 00:37:44.310
Little Strangler.

00:37:46.490 --> 00:37:49.190
Oh fuck that was so funny.

00:37:49.190 --> 00:37:52.710
A lot of browns jerseys out there I saw I like that hell yeah man

00:37:52.710 --> 00:37:54.790
But other than that it's been good it looked.

00:37:54.790 --> 00:37:56.690
Really like it went really well how'd the band play

00:37:57.510 --> 00:38:02.930
Band played great I thought our second show was better than our first because why I don't know,

00:38:03.870 --> 00:38:07.910
me and Strange is a little bit of this competition which is kind of like a healthy

00:38:07.910 --> 00:38:12.390
competition I guess but we still like you know even when we're competing we

00:38:12.390 --> 00:38:14.710
still have each other's backs.

00:38:15.210 --> 00:38:16.210
God damn it

00:38:19.710 --> 00:38:21.810
Why am i like this today i don't.

00:38:21.810 --> 00:38:26.290
Know man you were pretty chill right before the let me turn the mics on here

00:38:26.290 --> 00:38:28.830
we go baby i'm not mad it's i mean you're right

00:38:28.830 --> 00:38:29.910
I'm like not mad.

00:38:30.370 --> 00:38:31.130
No i just

00:38:31.130 --> 00:38:36.130
Feel just disappointed i'm about i'm just disappointed yeah yeah yeah i just

00:38:36.130 --> 00:38:37.530
you know want us all to come together,

00:38:41.710 --> 00:38:44.550
lock in before atlas shows up i'm.

00:38:44.550 --> 00:38:48.550
Ready for atlas let's do something new man i'm just like i'm ready for some new shit man fuck it

00:38:48.550 --> 00:38:51.490
Do you think i just don't want them to like i don't want to if they're gonna

00:38:51.490 --> 00:38:56.630
kill us i want them to kill us like right away i don't want this to be like a fucking slow.

00:38:56.630 --> 00:38:59.590
No no no i want to be vaporized and just go to wherever

00:38:59.590 --> 00:39:02.350
Just go just take us just whatever it's fine let me.

00:39:02.350 --> 00:39:06.070
Get some tacos first maybe one last time or something but like i don't know

00:39:06.070 --> 00:39:08.730
maybe I've always thought it'd be kind of cool to be alive for the end of the world.

00:39:09.450 --> 00:39:10.190
Yeah, it'd be fun.

00:39:10.350 --> 00:39:12.210
People always get weird when I say that. I'm like, well,

00:39:12.350 --> 00:39:15.310
Someone- We also don't have kids, so it's not as scary for us. That's true.

00:39:15.410 --> 00:39:16.850
We don't have kids or anything really.

00:39:17.290 --> 00:39:20.590
We don't have anything to look forward to.

00:39:20.710 --> 00:39:22.430
We don't have any purpose or meaning in our life, so yeah.

00:39:22.550 --> 00:39:23.230
Nothing matters.

00:39:23.830 --> 00:39:24.970
It is much easier. Woo!

00:39:25.110 --> 00:39:27.190
World Saving Podcast today is just super sad.

00:39:27.190 --> 00:39:29.730
We're like, World Saving Podcast. Let's end the world.

00:39:30.170 --> 00:39:33.230
No, no. I don't think. I think they come and give us knowledge.

00:39:33.310 --> 00:39:36.070
I'm going to be optimistic about this. If the aliens come, they're gonna come just.

00:39:36.070 --> 00:39:38.210
Like why would they come all the way here to kill us because we're not a threat

00:39:38.210 --> 00:39:39.230
to them so maybe you're right

00:39:39.850 --> 00:39:43.790
Right what would they do they need our resources they're gonna travel that.

00:39:43.790 --> 00:39:47.010
Long what if they need water okay then we're fucked

00:39:47.010 --> 00:39:47.530
Then we're fucked.

00:39:48.030 --> 00:39:50.950
If they got here they have more they have better shit than us who do you know

00:39:50.950 --> 00:39:53.230
That knows aliens do you know anyone know an alien.

00:39:53.230 --> 00:39:56.730
I mean the aliens thing is pretty interesting I just feel like nothing ever

00:39:56.730 --> 00:39:58.030
happens it's always some threat

00:39:58.030 --> 00:40:01.630
of this every two years and then nothing happens right it's gonna be a do

00:40:01.630 --> 00:40:03.070
You know about Project Bluebeam.

00:40:03.070 --> 00:40:04.210
Ooh what's that Ooh.

00:40:04.930 --> 00:40:06.210
Sounds like Project Bluebeam.

00:40:06.310 --> 00:40:07.330
Sounds like an ice cream company.

00:40:07.330 --> 00:40:09.950
This is turning into a Rogan podcast immediately. Yeah.

00:40:10.310 --> 00:40:11.490
Without all the viewers.

00:40:12.190 --> 00:40:16.190
Project Bluebeam is Serge Monisat. What's that?

00:40:16.230 --> 00:40:19.950
That's the guy that thought of it probably. The Canadian. He's dead actually.

00:40:20.230 --> 00:40:21.510
What is Project Bluebeam?

00:40:21.850 --> 00:40:22.210
Drones.

00:40:23.830 --> 00:40:27.270
It's basically like the recent surge of mysterious drones, blah,

00:40:27.350 --> 00:40:29.950
blah, blah, Project Bluebeam. Since mid-November. The lack of answers.

00:40:30.590 --> 00:40:34.170
Yeah, it's like this. They're faking the alien invasion. They're faking the alien invasion.

00:40:34.310 --> 00:40:36.570
I mean, that seems like some shit, because there's a bunch of shit they're doing

00:40:36.570 --> 00:40:38.950
they don't want people to see, Epstein files, et cetera.

00:40:39.650 --> 00:40:39.950
Huh.

00:40:40.370 --> 00:40:41.990
Everything's just a distraction, man.

00:40:42.370 --> 00:40:44.450
Everything's just so distracted, man.

00:40:46.200 --> 00:40:49.840
With soda it's so hard to give a shit anymore this episode

00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:50.540
Should be called dun.

00:40:50.540 --> 00:40:54.440
Dun dun i know we need to have a dun dun dun counter in the corner can we do

00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:58.980
that brian i don't know yeah i don't know what's

00:40:58.980 --> 00:41:03.020
Really fucked up about this ai thing is like i think this is actually good for

00:41:03.020 --> 00:41:06.140
social media because no one will fucking want to be on social media anymore

00:41:06.140 --> 00:41:07.600
because everything is so fake.

00:41:07.600 --> 00:41:10.800
Oh yeah it already was but now you can like actually prove it now

00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:11.880
It's just like boring there's no.

00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:14.720
Realness yeah social media is kind of dead we already talked i'm

00:41:14.720 --> 00:41:15.240
Kind of over social.

00:41:15.240 --> 00:41:16.820
Media it's just not fun so

00:41:16.820 --> 00:41:19.240
What are we gonna do with our business then if social media is.

00:41:19.240 --> 00:41:23.220
Dead i mean it's good for marketing but i'm just talking about like the yeah

00:41:23.220 --> 00:41:26.460
it's a good marketing platform but besides that like just like the shit where

00:41:26.460 --> 00:41:32.320
it's like i don't know just like post about opinions is stupid but it's it's good to reach people i

00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:32.820
Think so too.

00:41:32.820 --> 00:41:35.920
I don't know like it's you know the more good something has the more bad it

00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:39.020
has i guess for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction newton's

00:41:39.020 --> 00:41:40.840
third law of thermodynamics you

00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:44.640
Know like all All jokes aside, between Love is Blind, I kind of love these,

00:41:44.640 --> 00:41:46.980
like, social experiments about getting married shows.

00:41:46.980 --> 00:41:48.640
Have you seen Married at First Sight?

00:41:48.700 --> 00:41:49.540
No, what's that all about?

00:41:49.580 --> 00:41:52.360
It's like you marry someone right away, and then you have to, like, work it out.

00:41:52.660 --> 00:41:55.780
A girl that comes to trivia regularly, I'm not going to say her name,

00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:58.500
was on one of the seasons of that. Really? Yeah, she comes every week.

00:41:58.600 --> 00:41:59.660
I'll show you. Did she divorce her?

00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:04.220
Yeah, it didn't work out. I mean, only a crazy, like, the guy was worse than

00:42:04.220 --> 00:42:05.420
her, but it's for crazy people.

00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:08.860
And then they edit it to make you look even, editing is a powerful tool, man.

00:42:09.600 --> 00:42:12.440
You know? Yeah. You can make people look really crazy with some good editing.

00:42:12.700 --> 00:42:15.620
Yeah. Can you imagine if you cut down all the shit I said out of context?

00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:18.180
I could be the most racist man on earth.

00:42:20.180 --> 00:42:23.680
Well, that's the problem with this, like, open, like, the Sora thing.

00:42:23.820 --> 00:42:24.940
You heard about the Sora thing? Yeah.

00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:29.820
Open-faced AI where you could kind of, like, if you have, you could have control

00:42:29.820 --> 00:42:31.660
of people's AIs that make these videos.

00:42:31.940 --> 00:42:35.420
Yeah. I don't know. There's going to be good stuff and obviously terrible stuff

00:42:35.420 --> 00:42:38.560
that comes out of it, but just like every other thing. The problem is you can't fight it.

00:42:38.560 --> 00:42:42.280
Open my AI so people can make videos, I think it'd be fun for my fans.

00:42:42.460 --> 00:42:42.860
Yeah, I think

00:42:44.240 --> 00:42:47.340
Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's not that. I don't think you have to license yourself.

00:42:47.940 --> 00:42:49.180
It'd be awesome if like.

00:42:49.260 --> 00:42:51.240
Hopefully there's a way you can find to make money off it. That'd be cool.

00:42:51.340 --> 00:42:54.200
Holy shit, Frasco's the Pope. I remember people believed it.

00:42:57.100 --> 00:42:59.180
Just throwing oil on people. Yeah, throwing oil.

00:42:59.820 --> 00:43:00.500
Throwing Jagermeister.

00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:02.840
What would your Pope name be? Because you have to change your name when you're Pope.

00:43:03.680 --> 00:43:04.440
Is it Sir?

00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:08.020
No, it's Pope something. Oh. Like Pope Leo's name isn't Pope.

00:43:08.460 --> 00:43:10.580
Pope. Because it isn't Leo. It's like John.

00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:12.900
Open A, right, copyright. it's.

00:43:12.900 --> 00:43:14.780
Like when uh the queen does that too you know

00:43:14.780 --> 00:43:22.720
Open ai to explain this this okay go down so ai the copyright stuff it's it's

00:43:22.720 --> 00:43:27.860
been weird to see how a how ai performs on stuff that you can't you can't say

00:43:27.860 --> 00:43:31.720
hey i need you to uh put me in a star wars form no.

00:43:31.720 --> 00:43:32.080
I can't do

00:43:32.080 --> 00:43:37.100
That but if you say all the things that star wars is then they put it in that's

00:43:37.100 --> 00:43:38.440
still copyright infringement i.

00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:40.260
I did that to make my friend look Arab the other day.

00:43:41.140 --> 00:43:43.820
Hey, come over here. Talk about it. We have our tech guy here.

00:43:43.900 --> 00:43:47.600
Jack. Jack, producer, get in this mic.

00:43:49.620 --> 00:43:50.660
So what's going on?

00:43:52.220 --> 00:43:58.500
So the issue is that OpenAI doesn't care about anyone's copyright.

00:43:58.700 --> 00:43:59.320
Put the mic closer to you.

00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:00.680
Or intellectual property.

00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:01.140
Okay.

00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:06.480
And so their policy is basically we're going to do it anyway and we'll see if

00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.760
anyone finds us for it or sues us for it or whatever.

00:44:10.060 --> 00:44:12.960
Well, that's bad for the music industry. Oh, yeah, it's bad for every industry.

00:44:13.160 --> 00:44:17.920
And so there's going to be a bunch of lawsuits and eventually they will have-

00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:19.680
Who are they suing, though? ChatGPT?

00:44:20.140 --> 00:44:22.260
Yeah, people will be suing OpenAI.

00:44:22.740 --> 00:44:28.640
So like Disney will sue OpenAI or Nintendo or whatever these companies are whose

00:44:28.640 --> 00:44:31.700
IPs are being used without their consent.

00:44:32.060 --> 00:44:35.260
Right. So there will be a bunch of lawsuits. open ai

00:44:35.260 --> 00:44:37.880
will probably lose those lawsuits and have to

00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:41.900
pay a bunch of money but they don't care because basically

00:44:41.900 --> 00:44:46.360
as long as they get there first and get the most users as quick as possible

00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:51.180
they'll make so much money that even if they have to pay billions of dollars

00:44:51.180 --> 00:44:53.240
of fines and stuff it's worth it

00:44:53.240 --> 00:44:58.000
yeah yeah so what's the difference between uh chat gpt and google ai.

00:44:59.040 --> 00:45:02.060
Um none really yeah

00:45:02.060 --> 00:45:05.240
they're kind of the same things they have uh the

00:45:05.240 --> 00:45:08.140
thing is like google owns youtube so they're able

00:45:08.140 --> 00:45:11.640
to crawl youtube oh wow um for stuff

00:45:11.640 --> 00:45:14.780
for ai um versus open ai doesn't

00:45:14.780 --> 00:45:17.820
have their own platform so that's why they're letting everybody just

00:45:17.820 --> 00:45:21.320
feed them stuff um but yeah

00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:24.200
it's it's like the tech company that's how

00:45:24.200 --> 00:45:27.400
they all do it basically it's like the move fast and break things mark

00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:30.180
zuckerberg deal like we'll just build it and then

00:45:30.180 --> 00:45:34.140
we'll pay the fines and it doesn't really matter right which

00:45:34.140 --> 00:45:36.620
shows a really broken economic system

00:45:36.620 --> 00:45:36.927
i

00:45:36.927 --> 00:45:37.480
t is

00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:39.940
yeah it's like everyone's like just sue me

00:45:39.940 --> 00:45:40.620
yeah

00:45:40.620 --> 00:45:40.920
and

00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:44.700
this is a battle of how much money you have yeah and that's

00:45:44.700 --> 00:45:47.660
not fair either what that's like uh well that the wealth is

00:45:47.660 --> 00:45:50.500
that two percent and then everyone else can't afford

00:45:50.500 --> 00:45:51.800
to sue the two percent

00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:55.660
yeah you know it's it's uh oligarchy you know that's

00:45:55.660 --> 00:45:56.540
great we're in russia now

00:45:56.540 --> 00:46:01.400
wow anyway another this is like another sobering podcast

00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:03.900
of all time should we not post

00:46:03.900 --> 00:46:06.660
this one maybe is just for the archives i don't

00:46:06.660 --> 00:46:09.540
know for the for the only frasco subscribers yeah.

00:46:14.390 --> 00:46:19.190
Hello, everyone. It's Eddie Frasco, your local drunk. We're here to support Gardenista.

00:46:19.730 --> 00:46:23.770
Gardenista, our sponsors. So I've been substituting this from Jameson because

00:46:23.770 --> 00:46:28.990
I like the idea that there's ginger, lime juice, and green herbs in this.

00:46:29.090 --> 00:46:30.570
So I kind of feel healthy drinking this.

00:46:30.730 --> 00:46:34.030
And they got all these different ones. Like, I was kind of nervous about this bourbon cocktail.

00:46:34.470 --> 00:46:37.990
But it's bourbon whiskey, green herbs, lime juice, ginger, and jalapeno.

00:46:38.150 --> 00:46:41.710
It's got a little spice to it, but you put some ice in it, and it's actually

00:46:41.710 --> 00:46:45.890
a cocktail. and like I'm not really good at proportions so it's already made for you.

00:46:46.010 --> 00:46:48.570
Look at this. It's cute too. It could be on your table.

00:46:48.870 --> 00:46:50.750
You'd be like, oh, looky, you're sophisticated.

00:46:51.150 --> 00:46:55.490
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00:47:02.290 --> 00:47:04.910
All right, guys. Are we done here?

00:47:05.050 --> 00:47:08.490
No, I'm not done. And another thing!

00:47:08.710 --> 00:47:13.070
Hold on. Let's call Todd. Oh, God. Maybe Todd will have something nice to say.

00:47:13.190 --> 00:47:14.250
Andy Frasco.

00:47:14.910 --> 00:47:15.610
Let's keep it going.

00:47:16.430 --> 00:47:19.310
Yeah, let's put this one on the Patreon or whatever, or the only Frasco.

00:47:19.310 --> 00:47:20.850
I think this could be fun.

00:47:21.150 --> 00:47:24.810
No, I think it's actually not that bad. Everything doesn't have to be fucking...

00:47:24.810 --> 00:47:25.790
God damn it, Todd.

00:47:25.790 --> 00:47:27.930
Damn, he put you on do not disturb, co.

00:47:28.610 --> 00:47:29.230
Call me.

00:47:29.770 --> 00:47:30.390
Kale me.

00:47:30.950 --> 00:47:31.870
Um, kakale me.

00:47:32.070 --> 00:47:35.210
Um, the thing with the... It's like what we've been... I've been harping on

00:47:35.210 --> 00:47:37.570
this for years. Tech nerds should not be in charge of anything.

00:47:37.770 --> 00:47:40.510
They should not be running companies. They should definitely not be in anything creative.

00:47:41.450 --> 00:47:44.130
They've never made anything They got picked on their whole life And now they're

00:47:44.130 --> 00:47:45.110
taking it out in the world

00:47:46.790 --> 00:47:50.710
I've been saying this And guess what, I was right, unfortunately I hate that

00:47:50.710 --> 00:47:55.150
I was right, but I was Today Josh Fairman called me When I was in the shower

00:47:55.150 --> 00:47:58.270
Just to ask me a trivia question Oh really?

00:47:59.270 --> 00:48:04.250
He goes, what play was Lincoln watching When he got shot in the head And I knew

00:48:04.250 --> 00:48:11.810
it They were impressed So if you know it, put it in the comments Hold on it's called a call to

00:48:11.810 --> 00:48:15.890
Action a call to action I'm calling my dad oh no,

00:48:17.570 --> 00:48:23.630
he's got something to say President Frasco he's got something to say he won't

00:48:23.630 --> 00:48:26.950
answer he knows everyone doesn't answer now because they know if I'm calling

00:48:26.950 --> 00:48:29.590
them randomly at 3.30pm yeah yeah yeah,

00:48:31.030 --> 00:48:32.910
they know they're on the podcast the phrase.

00:48:32.910 --> 00:48:35.450
Nazi Spongebob is in this article so that's cool

00:48:36.590 --> 00:48:38.910
Nazi Spongebob oh yeah I heard about that.

00:48:39.310 --> 00:48:43.930
AI's gonna heal everything Nope, Nazi Spongebob AI's gonna make everything so

00:48:43.930 --> 00:48:46.270
much easier You're not gonna have to do your taxes anymore Something's gonna

00:48:46.270 --> 00:48:49.310
take out the trash for you Actually, nah, Nazi Spongebob

00:48:52.650 --> 00:48:55.910
now you have to do menial tasks your calendar will be done someone's going to

00:48:55.910 --> 00:48:58.750
send emails for you Nazi Spongebob

00:49:00.950 --> 00:49:04.010
sorry people got it we're making Nazi Spongebob instead

00:49:06.370 --> 00:49:10.610
quality of life is going to go up so much we're going to live longer it's going

00:49:10.610 --> 00:49:12.990
to be easier everything's going to get cheaper Nazi Spongebob

00:49:15.110 --> 00:49:17.490
I do like this Soar app it's kind of.

00:49:17.490 --> 00:49:20.950
Fun it's just fun Yeah, until you get Nazi Spongebob.

00:49:21.030 --> 00:49:21.730
Until you get Nazi Spongebob.

00:49:21.770 --> 00:49:24.370
Or whatever version of that. We're going to get Nazi Frasco at some point.

00:49:24.590 --> 00:49:25.330
We're going to get Nazi Frasco.

00:49:27.130 --> 00:49:28.870
Criminal Pikachu, you know what I mean?

00:49:29.050 --> 00:49:29.910
Criminal Pikachu.

00:49:30.890 --> 00:49:32.250
Sexual Assault Spider-Man.

00:49:32.350 --> 00:49:35.030
Look at this one I made. Look at this one I made.

00:49:37.950 --> 00:49:38.750
So stupid.

00:49:40.450 --> 00:49:41.690
But you could do like...

00:49:41.690 --> 00:49:43.010
Finance Bro Bart Simpson.

00:49:43.210 --> 00:49:47.710
I did Jake Paul holding hands on the beach and saying, will you and very slowly,

00:49:48.250 --> 00:49:50.210
cuts back to Jake say do a line with me.

00:49:50.850 --> 00:49:53.250
Well that's funny. It looks like you?

00:49:53.610 --> 00:49:55.990
No it looks like Jake. Jake's the one who has open AI.

00:49:56.270 --> 00:49:57.370
He said you can make whatever you...

00:49:57.370 --> 00:49:57.690
Yeah.

00:49:58.170 --> 00:50:01.030
Jake's always on the cutting edge of whatever's going on unfortunately.

00:50:01.030 --> 00:50:01.630
I did this one.

00:50:02.490 --> 00:50:06.430
Yeah you. Fuck you. And you over there? Fuck you. Not you. You're cool. But you?

00:50:06.510 --> 00:50:07.110
Fuck you.

00:50:07.310 --> 00:50:10.810
Back row? Fuck you. You with the laptop? Fuck you too. And the whole side section?

00:50:10.970 --> 00:50:15.210
Fuck off. You just type in like a two sentence prompt and it makes you do it

00:50:15.210 --> 00:50:15.910
You can make a paragraph.

00:50:15.910 --> 00:50:18.110
Oh my god i'm gonna spend all night so dude

00:50:18.110 --> 00:50:20.030
I i had so much fun last night.

00:50:20.030 --> 00:50:21.590
I need a bag in that i

00:50:21.590 --> 00:50:24.110
Need a bag in that um all right guys.

00:50:24.110 --> 00:50:29.030
Anyway follow your dreams what's cool about ai is it's gonna like it will like

00:50:29.030 --> 00:50:35.830
go ahead and like like all these like stupid things no nazi spongebob actually no well

00:50:35.830 --> 00:50:37.430
Like you know ai's getting so good like,

00:50:38.210 --> 00:50:39.590
You don't believe anything anymore.

00:50:39.750 --> 00:50:43.290
I never did to begin with. So now I believed everything. I know you.

00:50:43.350 --> 00:50:44.970
I was the believer of the American dream.

00:50:45.110 --> 00:50:47.770
Sometimes I just want to pet your head and say, yep, everything's real, buddy.

00:50:48.210 --> 00:50:49.170
Everything is real.

00:50:49.450 --> 00:50:52.190
Yeah. Nope. Mussolini, Rick and Morty. Sorry.

00:50:54.970 --> 00:50:56.190
All right, guys. You don't understand.

00:50:56.330 --> 00:50:58.850
This is going to usher in a utopia. Nope. Nazi SpongeBob.

00:51:00.910 --> 00:51:04.310
The tech people promised us a utopia and we got Nazi SpongeBob.

00:51:05.450 --> 00:51:09.210
Yeah, exactly. you know those posters Jerry.

00:51:09.210 --> 00:51:11.790
Jones is basically Nazi Spongebob anyway what you

00:51:11.790 --> 00:51:16.170
Know those posters of like the few in the 60s that made the picture of the future,

00:51:17.530 --> 00:51:20.410
just fucking flying cars all we have is Nazi Spongebob.

00:51:20.410 --> 00:51:24.430
Now yeah exactly we do have flying cars they're called helicopters people yeah

00:51:25.130 --> 00:51:28.490
I've had those for a while I don't know yeah well people can barely fucking

00:51:28.490 --> 00:51:31.890
drive in Denver as it is on the ground and everybody's fucking tags are expired

00:51:31.890 --> 00:51:34.890
last thing I want is people in the air driving cars we

00:51:34.890 --> 00:51:38.010
Have Nazi Spongebob and p diddy that's our.

00:51:38.010 --> 00:51:40.270
Future real p diddy anyway

00:51:40.270 --> 00:51:44.310
Follow your dreams people yeah let's live.

00:51:44.310 --> 00:51:50.030
Here comes that fucking what's it called atlas here comes at what if it's just like 800 nazi spongebob

00:51:50.610 --> 00:51:53.210
We were real the whole time i.

00:51:53.210 --> 00:51:57.870
Told you they're just speaking german looking for andy frasco

00:51:58.510 --> 00:52:00.130
He's talking about freedom.

00:52:00.130 --> 00:52:04.930
Yeah we're here to fucking help the lakers this will help your fantasy football

00:52:04.930 --> 00:52:09.010
team guys it'll tell you who you start and sit who to drop it also will give

00:52:09.010 --> 00:52:10.470
you a lot of nazi spongebob

00:52:13.470 --> 00:52:14.930
that's funny a

00:52:14.930 --> 00:52:17.330
Lot of people are using chat gpt as their therapist.

00:52:17.330 --> 00:52:21.090
Yeah i do that all the time i'm like am i cool am i smart am i handsome here's

00:52:21.090 --> 00:52:24.350
a picture of me am i handsome no i'm just kidding it's

00:52:24.350 --> 00:52:26.930
Pretty uh i haven't used it yet i use it.

00:52:26.930 --> 00:52:28.330
For stuff what

00:52:28.330 --> 00:52:28.850
Do you use it for.

00:52:28.850 --> 00:52:32.590
Um sometimes is just like a search engine to write trivia questions.

00:52:32.890 --> 00:52:36.430
So I'm like, give me 30 examples of celebrities who've gotten DUIs.

00:52:36.830 --> 00:52:39.290
It's easier than using Google. It kind of just does it for you.

00:52:39.570 --> 00:52:41.110
Puts them all in place or...

00:52:42.630 --> 00:52:48.150
just shit like that am I cool do people like me you know what I mean am I a

00:52:48.150 --> 00:52:52.010
burden on everyone around me should I just become Nazi Spongebob

00:52:53.830 --> 00:52:56.910
Nazi Spongebob is so fucking wild.

00:52:56.910 --> 00:52:59.130
Dude look at it it's right there where

00:52:59.130 --> 00:53:00.950
Is it I want to see a picture of it.

00:53:00.950 --> 00:53:05.570
They want their AI generated things on the app like Nazi Spongebob criminal Pikachu

00:53:07.230 --> 00:53:10.870
Nazi Spongebob oh my god oh my god,

00:53:13.010 --> 00:53:13.990
oh my god.

00:53:16.210 --> 00:53:18.910
He's doing rogan next week actually did you know that there

00:53:18.910 --> 00:53:22.370
It is did you see it go back what nazi spongebob.

00:53:22.370 --> 00:53:25.370
He's going on rogan next oh word where's

00:53:25.370 --> 00:53:26.470
Like the actual movie.

00:53:26.470 --> 00:53:29.590
It's not a movie it's just like a character they made out of him oh

00:53:29.590 --> 00:53:31.530
My god that's so crazy.

00:53:31.530 --> 00:53:34.810
People are obsessed with nazis right now everyone's a nazi yeah why

00:53:34.810 --> 00:53:35.530
Does everyone love.

00:53:35.530 --> 00:53:38.070
Nazis it's just the only thing they know about that's bad. They can't,

00:53:38.190 --> 00:53:42.390
no one read anything or did any work. Why is he so happy?

00:53:42.730 --> 00:53:45.690
I know. It's like Spongebob is happy to be a Nazi.

00:53:45.890 --> 00:53:47.450
He's luring me in with his smile.

00:53:47.590 --> 00:53:48.550
Chill, chill, chill, chill.

00:53:48.630 --> 00:53:49.310
Chill, chill, chill.

00:53:50.790 --> 00:53:51.930
Your best friend's Jewish.

00:53:52.150 --> 00:53:55.150
Yeah, yeah. Now you're my second best friend. Oh, I forgot the present. Damn it.

00:53:55.390 --> 00:53:55.990
You got a present?

00:53:56.150 --> 00:53:58.690
Kit got you a present for being my second best friend. Shut the fuck.

00:53:58.730 --> 00:54:01.150
Well, I'll just tell you what it is. What is it? A dream catcher.

00:54:02.270 --> 00:54:05.070
We can hang it right here. Fuck you, Kit. We can hang it right here.

00:54:05.170 --> 00:54:06.730
Fuck you, Kit. I'll bring it next time We'll

00:54:06.730 --> 00:54:10.750
Hang it I come and watch you I know exactly when you know When it's my fucking

00:54:10.750 --> 00:54:16.170
name My The Name on the That you have to pick For what?

00:54:16.230 --> 00:54:19.250
For trivia I know exactly you know You don't give it to me No he.

00:54:19.250 --> 00:54:21.930
Doesn't know I don't tell him anything It's very very good

00:54:21.930 --> 00:54:25.890
I liked our name last year Last week Julian's Black Friends Yeah but.

00:54:25.890 --> 00:54:28.170
The winner was good too Government slut down

00:54:29.980 --> 00:54:31.200
Government slutdown's good.

00:54:31.460 --> 00:54:33.320
Government slutdown's pretty good. That's good. Yeah.

00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:34.920
You've won best team name.

00:54:35.420 --> 00:54:38.000
No. I don't get any respect here.

00:54:38.080 --> 00:54:39.520
Oh my God. Shut the fuck up.

00:54:39.620 --> 00:54:41.020
Everything is just, everyone just.

00:54:41.080 --> 00:54:42.180
Everybody's out to get Andy.

00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:43.180
Everyone's out to get him.

00:54:43.200 --> 00:54:47.020
Million dollar house with this podcast named after him. And it's selling out

00:54:47.020 --> 00:54:49.680
shit everywhere and fucking getting laid all the time.

00:54:50.300 --> 00:54:53.980
Yeah, man, it sucks. Everybody's out to get you, man. Shut the fuck up. Nope.

00:54:54.200 --> 00:54:54.760
I won't.

00:54:55.900 --> 00:54:59.360
I won't shut the fuck up, Andy. Because I'm Nazi Spongebob.

00:55:01.700 --> 00:55:04.320
You came on this earth just to fuck with me.

00:55:05.060 --> 00:55:07.820
It's good for you at least I do it in a loving I know I'm

00:55:07.820 --> 00:55:08.700
Acting like a whiny bitch but.

00:55:08.700 --> 00:55:12.020
I'm not no you're not being a whiny bitch you weren't whining you were just

00:55:12.020 --> 00:55:14.420
laying it out there just laying it out there it's okay

00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:15.480
That's why I'm.

00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:16.720
Here it's your podcast that's

00:55:16.720 --> 00:55:17.000
Why I'm here.

00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:19.680
On you can talk about whatever you want on your podcast it's called Andy Fresco's

00:55:19.680 --> 00:55:23.640
Podcast okay a glimpse into the mind of Andy Fresco that's what

00:55:23.640 --> 00:55:25.260
Happened to Alex Jones and he got.

00:55:25.260 --> 00:55:30.320
Canceled you are not exactly doing what Alex Jones is doing he is Nazi Spongebob actually He is Nazi.

00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:33.580
Dude, did you see that picture of, have you seen him?

00:55:33.660 --> 00:55:40.480
He changed his mustache now, Adolf Hitler. Do Alex Jones' new mustache.

00:55:40.860 --> 00:55:44.020
It looks really good. I mean, it's terrible. Shut the fuck. Remember Michael

00:55:44.020 --> 00:55:46.340
Jordan did that for a Hanes commercial?

00:55:46.780 --> 00:55:53.140
Alex Jones' new mustache. Isn't that insane? I know he's doing this for a promo.

00:55:53.300 --> 00:55:53.860
Well, obviously.

00:55:54.080 --> 00:55:54.800
To get clicks.

00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:55.820
He kind of looks like him.

00:55:55.900 --> 00:55:57.440
He has the Hitler mustache.

00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:01.680
He looks like him, too, like in the eyes a little bit. yeah he got sued for

00:56:01.680 --> 00:56:03.580
a billion dollars and lost and

00:56:03.580 --> 00:56:06.940
Then he's still on how is he who paid for that he had that much money.

00:56:06.940 --> 00:56:09.680
I don't think i think he's just funding it himself i'm done

00:56:09.680 --> 00:56:11.040
With this guy delete this.

00:56:11.040 --> 00:56:11.980
God damn this

00:56:11.980 --> 00:56:12.500
Guy's a piece.

00:56:12.500 --> 00:56:19.700
Of shit looks like my great uncle or something jones nazi spongebob like

00:56:19.700 --> 00:56:25.400
There's got to be the there's got to be something that balances all this shit out.

00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:29.840
There is but it's not interesting so people don't click on that what being good

00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:33.520
person isn't that interesting online so people i don't know you gotta be oh

00:56:33.520 --> 00:56:35.240
the opposite of that actually it's golden retrievers

00:56:35.240 --> 00:56:37.420
Balancing all this this like.

00:56:37.420 --> 00:56:41.640
There's more good people than bad people the problem is bad evil

00:56:41.640 --> 00:56:44.120
Is not entertaining so people want.

00:56:44.120 --> 00:56:47.220
Any evil is more powerful i think actually why

00:56:47.220 --> 00:56:49.300
Are people more interested in evil than good.

00:56:49.300 --> 00:56:50.200
Because it's more shocking

00:56:53.240 --> 00:56:54.640
Okay no keep going.

00:56:54.640 --> 00:56:57.520
With this i just think it's more shot so i my whole thing is like it's evil

00:56:57.520 --> 00:57:00.300
is more powerful but the i do think there's way

00:57:00.300 --> 00:57:03.720
more good people than bad people that's why it only takes like one evil guy

00:57:03.720 --> 00:57:09.880
nazi spongebob for example to get all these people riled up uh and like do something

00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:12.720
like that or like you can give me another like who's another bad person in history

00:57:12.720 --> 00:57:16.600
mussolini like everyone didn't agree with him he just had power and was evil

00:57:16.600 --> 00:57:18.660
so it only takes like But like, I don't know.

00:57:18.820 --> 00:57:20.560
Everyone thought Bob Ross was boring.

00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:24.380
Exactly. Bob Ross was a good guy. Yeah, exactly. It's boring to be a good guy.

00:57:26.300 --> 00:57:29.160
All the good people you don't know are just going to work and fucking raising

00:57:29.160 --> 00:57:33.220
their kids and donating to charity and cranking a hug a couple times a week

00:57:33.220 --> 00:57:34.280
or whatever. You know what I mean?

00:57:35.040 --> 00:57:37.120
It's these Nazi Spongebob's that are ruining it for everybody.

00:57:38.040 --> 00:57:41.200
I want to tell this story on the podcast because it kind of makes sense.

00:57:42.160 --> 00:57:47.520
When I picked up Bayless' kids and that kid was trying to make fun of me,

00:57:47.560 --> 00:57:50.760
like, you look like Bob Ross. And I just immediately said, Bob Ross got.

00:57:50.760 --> 00:57:53.120
Pussy to this fucking third grader. Nine-year-old.

00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:58.800
I'm like, what am I doing? Yeah. He was horrified. That guy was like, he ran away.

00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:02.100
You do have a weird dichotomy where you're amazing with kids,

00:58:02.220 --> 00:58:03.900
but also I wouldn't want you around my kids.

00:58:04.340 --> 00:58:05.980
Bob Ross got pussy, kid, okay?

00:58:06.140 --> 00:58:08.460
You have such a weird dichotomy with children.

00:58:09.600 --> 00:58:12.480
Yeah, the kids really love me or they're fucking scared to death of me. Yeah.

00:58:12.720 --> 00:58:15.480
But I mean, like, you're good with kids, but also sometimes you say stuff that

00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:18.980
you shouldn't say around them, but also you're really good with them at the same time.

00:58:19.200 --> 00:58:20.420
It's like Billy Madison.

00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:27.340
Williams. William Madison yeah you're kind of like Nazi Spongebob you're like okay

00:58:27.340 --> 00:58:35.800
Gotta go gotta go hey guys like I said we're gonna have bad weeks it's fine I.

00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:39.180
Think this is a fun episode I just think you got serious for a while and that's okay

00:58:39.180 --> 00:58:42.560
No I'm saying like we're gonna have bad weeks in life we're gonna have serious

00:58:42.560 --> 00:58:51.000
weeks in life and that's fine you can't always be fun you can't always be sad you can't always just,

00:58:51.520 --> 00:58:54.160
be crazy but it's fun to have a little bit of

00:58:54.160 --> 00:58:57.000
all that this is what living is all about have a

00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:01.660
little crazy have a little get serious every now and then joke around don't

00:59:01.660 --> 00:59:06.480
take it so seriously fucking feel be sad yeah these are the every one out once

00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:10.220
crank one out fucking blow the load we're gonna we're gonna call you we're gonna

00:59:10.220 --> 00:59:15.500
call this festival next year holy loads clear the mechanism man holy loads we're just.

00:59:16.160 --> 00:59:20.400
I'm going if it's called Holy Love. Full on Eric Metcalf Browns jersey.

00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:24.860
You know what I'm saying? It's okay to not feel yourself, feel like yourself

00:59:24.860 --> 00:59:31.440
every now and then because it tests you what yourself is and who you are is

00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:34.700
all the little things that make you beautiful. Not just one thing.

00:59:35.040 --> 00:59:40.060
The seriousness, the happiness, the sadness, all that we should celebrate.

00:59:40.220 --> 00:59:44.040
Not just the happy moments, not just the sad moments, the weird moments.

00:59:44.040 --> 00:59:45.560
And celebrate every inch of you.

00:59:46.380 --> 00:59:50.300
Oh, hot. That was very hot. Every girthy inch of you.

00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:52.260
Every girthy, veiny, cummy inch of you.

00:59:53.220 --> 00:59:58.160
Sorry, I really... And realize that every part of you is beautiful. Yeah. Okay?

00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:01.280
And if you're mad at the halftime show, you're a bitch. Yeah,

01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:02.260
you're a bitch. Let me add that.

01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:05.400
Okay, yeah. If you're mad at the halftime show because he doesn't speak English...

01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:06.540
Get a life, dude. Fuck you.

01:00:06.640 --> 01:00:07.880
By the way, did you see the new news today?

01:00:08.100 --> 01:00:08.420
What?

01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:13.120
That one organization, Turning Point, they're doing their own alternative halftime

01:00:13.120 --> 01:00:14.360
show, christian halftime show

01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:15.380
They're gonna have like kid rock.

01:00:15.380 --> 01:00:19.080
No like christian like christian artists like kid rock's not religious enough

01:00:19.080 --> 01:00:20.880
for them they need like they're having like a revival

01:00:21.520 --> 01:00:25.220
it says it why oh america i don't want to get into religion but it says it's

01:00:25.220 --> 01:00:28.280
over for us i'm so sick of people acting like it's like no one can be christian

01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:31.080
it says in god we trust on our goddamn money we

01:00:31.080 --> 01:00:36.960
Got shows we're playing in boulder on the 17th.

01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:38.340
Yeah i got spongebob we're

01:00:38.340 --> 01:00:41.960
We're playing St. Augustine, Florida on the 19th.

01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:46.140
That'd be fun. We're doing a private party. It's kind of culty.

01:00:46.200 --> 01:00:46.720
It's going to be awesome.

01:00:47.260 --> 01:00:48.600
Yeah, that's a cool company.

01:00:48.680 --> 01:00:49.340
They're fun. Yeah.

01:00:50.680 --> 01:00:51.840
You've got to get in with them somehow.

01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:56.320
Yeah, they're really cool. And then 24th, we're playing Chattanooga, Tennessee.

01:00:57.100 --> 01:01:00.420
Way down yonder on the Chattanooga. Ooh, Todd just called us perfect.

01:01:00.820 --> 01:01:05.020
Perf. Todd, Newport, Kentucky with Government Mule on the 25th.

01:01:05.680 --> 01:01:10.280
Oh. And Charlottesville, Virginia on the 26th.

01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:14.480
Shout out to everyone listening to the Warren Haynes episode.

01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:15.820
Yeah, dude, it's going really well.

01:01:15.940 --> 01:01:16.860
It's fucking crushing.

01:01:17.180 --> 01:01:18.220
He's an interesting guy.

01:01:19.520 --> 01:01:21.280
All right, here we go. Todd called.

01:01:21.640 --> 01:01:22.780
Andy Frasco.

01:01:23.160 --> 01:01:26.380
Well, at least let's hear what Todd has to say about it.

01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:27.580
He'll be a good palate cleanser at all.

01:01:27.580 --> 01:01:28.680
He'll be a good palate cleanser, yeah.

01:01:30.860 --> 01:01:32.420
Oh, God damn it.

01:01:32.600 --> 01:01:33.900
I'm so sick of these people putting you on block, man.

01:01:34.120 --> 01:01:34.700
Call me.

01:01:35.420 --> 01:01:39.400
Try again the music industry is not supposed to be a competition we're supposed

01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:41.580
to be friends as long as I'm in first place

01:01:46.950 --> 01:01:51.210
Dude this new iphone is fucking horrible i can't even text,

01:01:53.210 --> 01:01:56.370
fuck apple dude i am one of the,

01:01:58.570 --> 01:02:03.850
i pay oh here he is i pay they are way too expensive i pay for a new phone every

01:02:03.850 --> 01:02:08.550
fucking year yeah and it's bullshit hi todd you're on the podcast i.

01:02:08.550 --> 01:02:10.250
Am on the podcast you're on the

01:02:10.250 --> 01:02:12.150
Podcast Todd Glass, everyone. And Nick's here.

01:02:12.350 --> 01:02:17.410
Oh, I have to perform. Hey, I don't understand why, you know,

01:02:17.470 --> 01:02:19.970
like Reese's Cups, they double-stuff them, they do well.

01:02:20.150 --> 01:02:22.890
And then you see Oreos are doing very well double-stuffed.

01:02:23.190 --> 01:02:26.510
Kit Kats double-stuffed them, and they're doing well. So if I was the owner

01:02:26.510 --> 01:02:30.430
of a company, I would think, oh, people like double-stuffed shit, Americans.

01:02:30.790 --> 01:02:33.450
So what the fuck is Pop-Tart waiting for?

01:02:33.910 --> 01:02:34.750
Yeah, thanks, Todd.

01:02:35.190 --> 01:02:36.010
All right, hang up on it.

01:02:36.170 --> 01:02:36.430
Just hang up.

01:02:37.170 --> 01:02:40.670
Oh, they go, oh, double-stuffed the inside, double-stuffed. I said,

01:02:40.750 --> 01:02:43.970
double stuff the whole fucking thing and shove it in a pouch and I'll shove

01:02:43.970 --> 01:02:46.970
it up my ass and we call it a day. Andy, how can I help you?

01:02:47.130 --> 01:02:50.670
Todd, I want to talk about our, it's coming up.

01:02:50.850 --> 01:02:55.310
We're doing the Todd Glass, Andy Frasco Thanksgiving Spectacular,

01:02:55.330 --> 01:02:58.730
where we're going to be taking mushrooms at your house and eating Thanksgiving.

01:02:59.310 --> 01:03:04.210
Can you tell the audience what is going to happen at this lovely event?

01:03:05.250 --> 01:03:07.750
Well, thank you for asking. Is anybody else with you?

01:03:08.290 --> 01:03:09.790
Nick Gerlach. He wants to come too.

01:03:09.790 --> 01:03:13.210
Nick, please. Hi, Nick. Okay. I'll make it simple.

01:03:13.950 --> 01:03:18.090
So I don't like a lot of, like, I like to enjoy things, not get caught up in

01:03:18.090 --> 01:03:20.590
the, you know, like, oh, I got to do this, I got to do that.

01:03:20.710 --> 01:03:24.210
You know, I always try to go, how can I enjoy the holiday, make it look cool,

01:03:24.230 --> 01:03:25.450
but with not a ton of effort?

01:03:25.650 --> 01:03:30.010
So what we do is, I said, last year, remember I said we'll have our favorite

01:03:30.010 --> 01:03:31.530
Thanksgiving sandwiches.

01:03:31.630 --> 01:03:35.270
So some people bring turkey, bring stuffing, we'll put it all out with like

01:03:35.270 --> 01:03:38.830
five types of bread, people can come and they can make their own sandwich, right?

01:03:39.310 --> 01:03:44.710
Fuck that That was even too hard So I'm telling everybody It's still a lot of

01:03:44.710 --> 01:03:48.630
work I want it to look nice So this year I'm saying I don't care if you make

01:03:48.630 --> 01:03:51.550
it at your house Or there's somewhere in LA Where you know that makes a great

01:03:51.550 --> 01:03:52.530
Thanksgiving sandwiches

01:03:53.590 --> 01:03:57.410
Everybody brings like two or three For their favorite Thanksgiving sandwiches

01:03:57.410 --> 01:04:02.730
We get here, we cut them in three Put them in a basket And then I'm going to

01:04:02.730 --> 01:04:06.730
make like a Thanksgiving casserole Because that's easy Boom, you put it in a crock pot

01:04:07.210 --> 01:04:10.210
It's got everything in it You know, like turkey stuffing, all that stuff.

01:04:10.570 --> 01:04:14.090
Everybody bring it, and then it's out. If you want one at 6 o'clock,

01:04:14.090 --> 01:04:17.170
eat one. If it's 11 o'clock, you're hungry again, you go get another one.

01:04:17.350 --> 01:04:19.890
What about the mushrooms, Todd? What about the mushrooms?

01:04:20.210 --> 01:04:21.070
Three minutes on sandwiches.

01:04:21.290 --> 01:04:23.590
I wouldn't be doing all this other shit if I wasn't fucked up on mushrooms.

01:04:23.930 --> 01:04:27.550
But are we going to do all this effort, and then we're going to be tripping dick and not be hungry?

01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:33.940
Well, you know, I'm sorry I told you the boring part. All Andy wants to know about is the mushrooms.

01:04:33.940 --> 01:04:35.620
Three minutes on sandwiches with no jokes.

01:04:35.740 --> 01:04:38.660
Probably sitting there rolling your eyes and all the other stuff.

01:04:39.120 --> 01:04:44.940
So, yeah, no, no, no, no, no. Because I did, we'll do, we'll eat later. You always get hungry.

01:04:45.020 --> 01:04:46.600
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. That's true.

01:04:47.260 --> 01:04:48.540
But later you are.

01:04:49.160 --> 01:04:49.540
Todd.

01:04:49.620 --> 01:04:53.440
For me, do you have a third of a Thanksgiving sandwich?

01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:56.820
Not too much where you're stuffed and the mushrooms don't take effect.

01:04:57.140 --> 01:04:58.700
But that's all I wanted to say.

01:04:58.700 --> 01:05:00.980
Todd, when did America lose its soul?

01:05:02.200 --> 01:05:04.240
They didn't. Don't get me started.

01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:08.720
No, I want to get you started. What do you think? I've been ranting about this

01:05:08.720 --> 01:05:09.980
most of the whole podcast.

01:05:10.180 --> 01:05:13.800
I need someone who has a different perspective on it. What do you think?

01:05:13.900 --> 01:05:18.580
Well, you know, Andy, I'll be honest. I give my perspective a lot because I

01:05:18.580 --> 01:05:22.260
feel like I'm one of the small few that have this perspective.

01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:26.100
You know, look, things are not good right now with what's happening in the world.

01:05:27.520 --> 01:05:31.400
But put that aside, even. A lot of these problems that we're having stemmed

01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:34.960
back even before, let's say even before Trump was in 2010.

01:05:34.980 --> 01:05:37.340
Let's go back to 2010, right?

01:05:38.640 --> 01:05:41.620
And I don't think it's because we decline. I hear people go,

01:05:41.700 --> 01:05:44.660
what happened? We just have civility. No, we didn't.

01:05:44.860 --> 01:05:45.160
I agree.

01:05:45.640 --> 01:05:49.420
No, we didn't. How far back do you want to go? Was it civil that black people

01:05:49.420 --> 01:05:53.000
couldn't eat with white people? Was it civil that a woman couldn't do any jobs she wanted?

01:05:53.200 --> 01:05:53.720
Was it civil.

01:05:53.720 --> 01:05:59.440
That gay people couldn't get back? It's not civility. For maybe certain people, it seemed that way.

01:05:59.580 --> 01:06:05.520
But if you take a look at how we treated all human beings, it wasn't that simple.

01:06:05.980 --> 01:06:08.760
That's why I always, I love a good conversation. So if someone tries to throw

01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:12.080
it in, you know, whatever happened, that's when it ruins it for me.

01:06:12.240 --> 01:06:17.820
Even if I agree with the problem, I don't connect it to it used to be better. Does that make sense?

01:06:18.060 --> 01:06:19.340
How can we make it better?

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Well, that's a little more complex. But, oh, well, one, by realizing that it

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didn't used to be better. That's a start.

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If you just go, oh, that made sense.

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I think before you debate anybody

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or discuss something, you have to say to them, do you mind being wrong?

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Now, that sounds like a loaded question, but someone that has an opposing view.

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And then they could say to me, Todd, do you mind being wrong?

01:06:42.620 --> 01:06:44.080
Right? Right. You get me so far?

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Totally.

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Okay, I think I'm saying this clean, so I'm going to go a little bit more here.

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Come on, get in there.

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Most people don't want to be wrong, including me, but as I get older, I evolve.

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But I know what it's like not to want to be wrong because I was like that in

01:06:57.560 --> 01:07:00.940
my first few relationships. You know, you realize you're wrong inwardly,

01:07:01.040 --> 01:07:04.300
but then outwardly you can still put up a big fight. You just don't want to be wrong.

01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:08.520
You have to say to yourself, to yourself, laying in bed, would I mind if my

01:07:08.520 --> 01:07:11.560
whole theory on this world, I had it wrong?

01:07:11.740 --> 01:07:15.480
Like, you should be better. Can you get that out of somebody's mind?

01:07:15.780 --> 01:07:18.580
It's like a drug. It's very hard. But here's what I want to say.

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People go, Todd, would you mind being wrong?

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Of course I have to ask myself that. But I will tell you this,

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as cocky as it seems, Thank you.

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I think that all these problems come down to what you wanted to like.

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Well, what's the running seams of all of them instead of discussing this issue or that issue?

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There seems to be a running pattern in the world that there's people that want

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to do things a new way and there's people that want to keep it the same.

01:07:44.150 --> 01:07:45.770
Right. It doesn't matter how far back you go.

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Any social issues or even like I love to say, picking up your dog shit.

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Nobody wanted to pick up their dog shit.

01:07:51.850 --> 01:07:55.690
Nobody wanted non-smoking restaurants. So there seems to be a theory of,

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not a theory, something that happens where there's a certain group of people,

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should women be allowed to do this?

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There's a certain group of people that want to try it the new way,

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and there's certain people that want to keep it the way it is,

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go back to this, go back, go back.

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But it seems history writes that the new way is better. Now,

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you can't decide that if we're looking at topics on hand, but if you go back

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to even ask people now, go, hey, well, let's see, you know, if they're going to answer honestly.

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But if you go back to any of the issues of 30 years ago, try to get out of,

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you know, when it's not still in the chopping table, do you think,

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I always go to the same thing.

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Do you think that women should be able to do any job they want?

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Most people are not going to go, no.

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Do you think black people should be able to eat with white people?

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Yes. Do you think that black children should go to school with white children? Yes.

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Do you think white people should have been able to marry black people?

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Yes. Do you think gay people, you think it's an illness, people are going to go, no.

01:08:51.850 --> 01:08:56.590
So it seems to be, if you want to be a betting man, it seems to be,

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in the midst of it, you think you're right, I think I'm right.

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But when things come, the side that wants to do it a new way seems to...

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you know, history writes that decision better.

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That's true.

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Yeah.

01:09:14.980 --> 01:09:17.460
That is true. Now, that's in a moment in life where you have to want to,

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you know, you want to get out of your own way.

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If someone that's listening to this right now, that what I just said doesn't

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fit into what they believe, you at least have to pause and go, he is right.

01:09:28.820 --> 01:09:29.180
Yes.

01:09:29.320 --> 01:09:33.800
That is right. There's, I want to do it the new way, you want to do it the old

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way. And like I say, it doesn't have to be social.

01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:38.240
What's your take on tacos?

01:09:41.960 --> 01:09:47.720
i'm just kidding i'm just kidding no i i totally agree it does i think you cleaned

01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:53.240
it up i think yes we're we're we're viewing the future from the lens of the

01:09:53.240 --> 01:09:59.200
past and that's not how we should approach the future you're saying some people are some.

01:09:59.200 --> 01:10:02.940
People seem to think that it was better back in the day yeah maybe for certain

01:10:02.940 --> 01:10:06.200
groups of people it was yeah right it was a simpler time. People go,

01:10:06.340 --> 01:10:07.960
oh, it was a simpler time. You had your youth.

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But this, you know. I get it. And also, I'll tell you one other thing.

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Can I go a little further? Yeah.

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Look, this doesn't mean that the people that want to go backwards or go backwards. It doesn't mean that

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they... Hold on, hold on. I got my thought here. They want to go backwards.

01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:32.600
They want to go backwards.

01:10:33.850 --> 01:10:36.490
But, oh, yeah, it doesn't mean that the people that want to go backwards,

01:10:36.650 --> 01:10:41.370
yes, I want to acknowledge what they do to these groups of people,

01:10:41.510 --> 01:10:44.190
that they're arguing for their rights and they make their lives hard,

01:10:44.350 --> 01:10:45.990
whatever group you want to talk about.

01:10:46.110 --> 01:10:46.470
Right, right, right.

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But I'm almost done. Don't worry. But I will say this. They might put a stop

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on it. They might block it. They might.

01:10:55.150 --> 01:10:59.150
But they never stop anything. And I'll tell you how, why they don't.

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They never stop anything. Again, I could go through that whole list.

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Did they stop that? Can women, did they stop that?

01:11:04.450 --> 01:11:06.550
Hey, we still have a lot of work to do in all those categories,

01:11:06.550 --> 01:11:08.370
but they've never really stopped anything.

01:11:08.650 --> 01:11:11.590
Do we pick up our dog shit? Do most civil-minded people don't?

01:11:11.790 --> 01:11:16.310
Because back then, they didn't even modestly say, oh, why are we going to pick up our dog shit?

01:11:16.470 --> 01:11:19.170
I mean, I know it's the right thing to do, but still, no. It was like,

01:11:19.270 --> 01:11:20.150
you're a fucking lunatic.

01:11:20.490 --> 01:11:23.430
When we had non-smoking restaurants, oh my God, the world's going to shit.

01:11:23.970 --> 01:11:27.310
But they never stopped it. They never stop anything. They slow it down.

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They make everybody's life out. They never stop anything.

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Do a joke.

01:11:30.730 --> 01:11:34.110
Think about that. Think about that. They never stop anything.

01:11:34.350 --> 01:11:38.290
It's almost like you say it like a bully. What the fuck does the other side ever stop?

01:11:38.750 --> 01:11:42.370
And that is because they bank that kids get dumber.

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And that is where they lose. Even if somebody on that side would have the acknowledgement,

01:11:48.910 --> 01:11:50.030
they go, maybe that's right.

01:11:50.110 --> 01:11:53.250
That's why we lose every time because we go, kids get stupid and stupid.

01:11:53.710 --> 01:11:58.530
No, they get smarter and smarter. And you thinking they're stupider is why you lose.

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Because if you were aware how brilliant they were, Maybe your fight would be different.

01:12:02.710 --> 01:12:07.150
I'm not saying I want them to win, but kids don't get stupider and stupider.

01:12:07.410 --> 01:12:09.890
People love to say that, oh, the kids today, the kids today.

01:12:10.050 --> 01:12:12.110
They've been saying that for how many goddamn years?

01:12:12.290 --> 01:12:15.890
You should be embarrassed to say that even if you're right. It's such a boring

01:12:15.890 --> 01:12:18.650
conversation to hear kids get stupider.

01:12:18.910 --> 01:12:22.970
And there's people listening right now to your podcast, maybe even you,

01:12:23.190 --> 01:12:25.150
that will not go back to their lives.

01:12:25.510 --> 01:12:30.390
Look, I hope it does, and maybe I'm saying this so it does, that will change anything they think.

01:12:31.170 --> 01:12:35.150
It won't shame. Most people, it's like a drug. It might be to hear it now and

01:12:35.150 --> 01:12:37.050
go, yeah, I guess he has a point. I guess he has a point.

01:12:37.450 --> 01:12:43.690
Most people think kids get stupider the first time the kids have a different theory than them.

01:12:43.830 --> 01:12:47.550
Like Bill Maher. He goes, what happened when you used to go to colleges and

01:12:47.550 --> 01:12:48.850
these kids were forward thinking?

01:12:49.390 --> 01:12:52.330
And I sarcastically, with all the sarcasm in the world, want to go,

01:12:52.570 --> 01:12:54.490
Bill, when did you think that they weren't?

01:12:54.550 --> 01:12:57.910
Because he's acknowledging, oh, they used to be forward thinking. I would do these shows.

01:12:58.110 --> 01:13:01.190
So let me ask you a question. Did you start thinking they weren't forward thinking

01:13:01.190 --> 01:13:03.230
when they disagreed with something you said?

01:13:04.110 --> 01:13:07.610
Instead of going, holy shit, these kids are disagreeing with something I say,

01:13:07.870 --> 01:13:11.030
they have an amazing track record of being on the right side of history.

01:13:11.350 --> 01:13:13.850
Maybe should I at least give them a fucking listen.

01:13:14.490 --> 01:13:18.490
And being quiet isn't listening. Just because you're shutting up while the other

01:13:18.490 --> 01:13:20.310
person talks doesn't mean you're digesting.

01:13:20.410 --> 01:13:22.530
Like me right now. Yeah, exactly.

01:13:23.770 --> 01:13:25.790
Now you asked me and I said it.

01:13:25.890 --> 01:13:30.150
No, no, no. You're right. You're totally right. I think you're completely right.

01:13:30.690 --> 01:13:36.870
The idea that the youth aren't smarter than the people who have already lived here is wrong.

01:13:37.010 --> 01:13:42.010
And I think there's better ideas from the youth that we could actually,

01:13:42.090 --> 01:13:47.070
if we'd actually listen to, maybe it can help because it's the future.

01:13:47.530 --> 01:13:52.310
So it's an idea of being stubborn. We've got to stop being stubborn. We're stubborn.

01:13:52.510 --> 01:13:56.970
I always said it's your ego. I always said if cars, if automotive,

01:13:57.310 --> 01:14:02.630
like if a car had an ego, we wouldn't have fuel injections still.

01:14:03.150 --> 01:14:05.650
Because a car had an ego, you'd go to give it fuel injection.

01:14:05.830 --> 01:14:07.790
Nah, this carburetor's all right.

01:14:08.670 --> 01:14:12.170
If these teens had egos. Pretty good. And it just makes sense.

01:14:12.350 --> 01:14:16.750
I'm not saying all young people, by the way. Just because you see a young person that's stupid.

01:14:16.890 --> 01:14:18.290
What about when AI gets an ego?

01:14:19.770 --> 01:14:25.230
Well, and you know what, even AI. There's also running patterns that you can look.

01:14:25.490 --> 01:14:30.730
You can, if we talk about what's good for, is AI good or is AI bad?

01:14:30.910 --> 01:14:34.670
On a good day, maybe you could make a better point than me and maybe you could win.

01:14:34.850 --> 01:14:38.250
I don't really know the answer. But I do know this.

01:14:38.810 --> 01:14:43.250
And if you pay attention to patterns, that's the way we cure diseases.

01:14:43.390 --> 01:14:44.550
We pay attention to patterns.

01:14:44.930 --> 01:14:49.530
There seems to be a history, again, 10 of these things that they thought were

01:14:49.530 --> 01:14:51.730
going to ruin dot, dot, dot.

01:14:52.110 --> 01:14:56.190
I think someone said, is it the Stenograph or the first record? What was that called?

01:14:57.070 --> 01:14:57.470
Phonograph.

01:14:57.750 --> 01:14:58.150
Phonograph.

01:14:58.190 --> 01:15:01.670
Phonograph. That was going to ruin the music business. I think like Andy Williams

01:15:01.670 --> 01:15:04.630
or an older performer said, it's going to ruin the music business.

01:15:04.870 --> 01:15:08.070
There seems to be a running history of people that think TV is going to ruin

01:15:08.070 --> 01:15:11.910
the business. This is going to ruin business. And years later, it didn't.

01:15:12.900 --> 01:15:17.220
It didn't. So maybe this one will be different, but I can tell you when you

01:15:17.220 --> 01:15:21.320
go to make that decision, is AI going to be bad? Is it going to be the demise of the world?

01:15:22.520 --> 01:15:25.620
If you're a betting man and you just want to win money, like if someone goes

01:15:25.620 --> 01:15:27.060
in 30 years, what's going to happen?

01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:31.520
You know, you're probably going to be wrong. Even though if we argue about it

01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:34.860
right now, someone you could win on a Thursday, maybe I'd win on a Friday,

01:15:34.860 --> 01:15:38.260
if we just took it what we're dissecting on the plate right now.

01:15:38.560 --> 01:15:41.460
But if you go back and look at the history of it, with not minding,

01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:45.440
as you gather these facts, not minding if these facts don't,

01:15:45.440 --> 01:15:47.100
you know, come against what you think.

01:15:47.540 --> 01:15:53.040
Look at all the things we thought were going to ruin kids or ruin this or ruin

01:15:53.040 --> 01:15:55.060
that. We usually have bigger fish to fry.

01:15:55.340 --> 01:15:59.060
And we usually don't look at the thing that really is the demise.

01:15:59.180 --> 01:16:02.280
You know, people thought Elvis moving his crotch around was going to be the

01:16:02.280 --> 01:16:04.960
end of the world. People really believe that. Like, now we're fucked.

01:16:05.240 --> 01:16:07.320
It's hard to believe that in anything. Oh, Todd's exaggerating.

01:16:07.460 --> 01:16:10.240
No, people were like, what the fuck is going on?

01:16:10.240 --> 01:16:15.000
Now go back at that year Go back at that year And look what was going on in

01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:20.680
the landscape of this world How we were treating marginalized groups And you go Elvis' crotch Really

01:16:21.240 --> 01:16:25.500
So I always say don't guess the problem What?

01:16:26.220 --> 01:16:28.240
You were telling me I was laughing at your joke

01:16:29.620 --> 01:16:37.260
Am I on the podcast? You're on the podcast I'm exhausted I had a clean I think

01:16:37.260 --> 01:16:39.320
I got everything out You did I

01:16:39.320 --> 01:16:39.900
Think you got it

01:16:39.900 --> 01:16:41.680
All I'll say one more thing. One more thing.

01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:42.600
Yeah, okay. I swear.

01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:48.220
When I say the kids today are smarter, I'm not talking about every single child

01:16:48.220 --> 01:16:50.340
or everything. I should say young adult.

01:16:50.680 --> 01:16:54.760
I'm talking about the involved kids, the kids that are involved,

01:16:54.980 --> 01:16:57.600
the kids that are fighting for this or fighting for that.

01:16:57.940 --> 01:17:01.980
Sometimes they go about it wrong once in a while, but the issue,

01:17:01.980 --> 01:17:04.600
the issue that they're arguing, they're always right.

01:17:04.780 --> 01:17:08.320
They have an amazing track record of being right, but it doesn't look like it.

01:17:08.320 --> 01:17:12.460
You know, if you run a company and you're a CEO and you have an amazing track

01:17:12.460 --> 01:17:15.340
record, people listen to what you fucking say.

01:17:15.500 --> 01:17:15.740
Yeah.

01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:19.260
But because we're afraid of death, I think that's what it might be.

01:17:19.340 --> 01:17:20.520
I'm just taking a stab at it.

01:17:20.660 --> 01:17:24.760
We're afraid of death. And instead of talking about that in a real way to go,

01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:27.560
I don't want to die. I like it here. I don't really want to die.

01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:32.300
So we come up with a Band-Aid for it. Oh, at least we were born at a better time.

01:17:32.420 --> 01:17:35.760
At least the kids today are dumber. At least music today.

01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:38.960
At least we were born when music was good. but at least we were born when comedy

01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:40.380
was good. That's a band-aid.

01:17:42.380 --> 01:17:47.020
You're right. Instead of saying, it's scary to die, and there's still good music.

01:17:48.140 --> 01:17:52.620
Speaking of death, what do you think of aliens? Do you think they're going to come after us?

01:17:52.940 --> 01:17:53.960
I have no idea.

01:17:55.060 --> 01:17:57.280
At least, you know, if I don't have an idea, I say it.

01:17:59.180 --> 01:18:00.140
Hey, so, guys.

01:18:00.240 --> 01:18:04.320
You know, I got one more thing. Okay. People, as much as I'm opinionated,

01:18:04.540 --> 01:18:06.860
I don't mind not weighing in on things.

01:18:07.080 --> 01:18:10.520
People don't really want the right answer. I think they want the answer that

01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:12.300
they, in their head, is right.

01:18:12.580 --> 01:18:14.880
This brings us back to the first part of the podcast. That's why we're going

01:18:14.880 --> 01:18:15.940
to keep this episode. Right.

01:18:16.260 --> 01:18:19.140
Well, when it comes to social, when it comes to what people,

01:18:19.760 --> 01:18:25.540
you know, do you want what's right or do you want what you had in your head

01:18:25.540 --> 01:18:27.480
and you want that to be right? Do you mind being wrong?

01:18:27.640 --> 01:18:28.160
It goes, right.

01:18:28.580 --> 01:18:30.960
I'll give you an example. When we're talking about issues of today,

01:18:31.080 --> 01:18:35.000
what should we expose children to? What should we not expose children to?

01:18:35.700 --> 01:18:38.740
What's wrong with going, and I'm not even joking. There's a website,

01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:41.560
you can get this answer. You're going, what does Sesame Street think?

01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:43.200
Well, why Sesame Street?

01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:47.660
Well, wouldn't you agree that they have been on the right side of history,

01:18:47.820 --> 01:18:51.400
integrating different races and talking about things in an honest way.

01:18:51.720 --> 01:18:55.920
So what's wrong with going, I don't know what my stance on this is.

01:18:55.920 --> 01:19:01.280
I want to go to someone that has a rich history of being ahead of their time and doing things right.

01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:05.260
I'm going to defer to Sesame Street. But again, that's not what people are looking

01:19:05.260 --> 01:19:07.940
for. You're looking for people that agree with you.

01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:15.520
I think the biggest drug that is the demise of society isn't prescription drugs.

01:19:16.520 --> 01:19:19.740
It's complacency. it's trying to get people

01:19:19.740 --> 01:19:22.640
to believe or get them to understand your

01:19:22.640 --> 01:19:25.540
view that you have this view that you go through life with

01:19:25.540 --> 01:19:28.480
it's wrong and it's like a drug it's very hard

01:19:28.480 --> 01:19:31.300
to yank them out of it because they believed it so

01:19:31.300 --> 01:19:34.040
long they don't want to be wrong it's like being on

01:19:34.040 --> 01:19:36.820
drugs just because you say hey I'm a drug addict or

01:19:36.820 --> 01:19:41.220
I'm an alcoholic that doesn't mean that's the start then there's a lot of work

01:19:41.220 --> 01:19:45.820
even if you were to go God what Todd said sort of made sense I think I might

01:19:45.820 --> 01:19:49.540
be that person he's talking about that doesn't mean there's not a lot of work

01:19:49.540 --> 01:19:54.540
ahead of you to change this adage you've been living with for such a long time.

01:19:56.640 --> 01:20:00.060
If you want to hear these thoughts, if you think this podcast is interesting,

01:20:00.240 --> 01:20:04.100
think about when Todd's on mushrooms, the thoughts he has going through his head.

01:20:04.860 --> 01:20:08.620
Come on over to the Todd Glass Thanksgiving special. What's up, buddy?

01:20:08.620 --> 01:20:13.000
Can I tell you one more thing? My show that I'm doing in New York, now you might go, what?

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I'm not really talking about any social issues. I did on my last Netflix special.

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This one, by my own choice.

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Maybe my next one, I'll talk about social issues. I'm not talking about any

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social issues. I just wanted the show that I'm doing in New York and the show

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that I'm touring with right now.

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I just want, I mean, people can tell that I hopefully am progressive because

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of some of the, you know, you say things indirectly, even if you're not marching and waving a flag.

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But yeah, I just want this to be for people to go out, have a good time,

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and sort of not deal with that. The only chunk I have in my acting.

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Second City, first week in November, come out to see Todd.

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Second City, the 7th to the 17th, 15 shows.

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And when one of your close friends is going to come to the first weekend. I forgot.

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Andy Frasco, baby.

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Am I still here?

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So glad you're going. And I love you to death. And I love Nick to death.

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And I'm so excited that you're going to be there. Really am.

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I was talking to Vinny the other day. And I'm like, I just love it.

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You know, I never get over our friendship. And then I just adore you.

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I love you, buddy.

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I miss you, Todd.

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I got to give Nick some attention. But I love you so much. Let me call you back in a little bit.

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I'm going to text you.

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Okay, bye. Got to run.

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Sorry. Got to run. Got to run.

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So fucking funny.

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Todd Glass is the greatest, but I think he nailed it on the head.

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Yeah, I think in there. I actually agree with everything he said.

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I did. I dozed off a little bit. I was trying to get, when he gets into his,

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he's not breathing. He's just talking.

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It's impressive, actually.

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It's pretty impressive. He's really brilliant. He's a brilliant man.

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He's a brilliant man that I agree with almost all the time.

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You will check out the Todd Glass Thanksgiving special. That looks awesome.

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The mushroom is, mushrooms on ice, we call it.

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You're going to come to that this week here? What is it? What do you do for

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Thanksgiving? You go home for Thanksgiving.

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No, I already told you. My family doesn't do Thanksgiving.

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Come have Thanksgiving with us.

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Just got to make sure Julie's in Denver and then I can do it.

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Okay.

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Bring her. I can't leave Denzel at home alone.

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You can't leave Julie.

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Yeah, I can. She doesn't care.

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All right, guys. I think we nailed it.

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I think we nailed it on the head today, right? It was a great podcast.

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We're getting worried. It was getting a little sad. But now this is an informational podcast. Yeah.

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We learned a lot today. We learned about the music industry.

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We learned about aliens.

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Tech guy stuff.

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Tech guy, AI stuff. And then Todd Glass to put a bow on it that- A quick 20

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minutes. The future isn't as scary as we think it is, because we have to believe

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in the youth that they're going to take care of it.

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So I believe- The past is much scarier in the future.

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Yes. All right, guys. Enjoy your Tuesday after that manic-ass episode.

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I hope you got a good lunch.

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If you had a good lunch, that was really chewable That was like chewing grass today Goodbye Hey.

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Everybody. It's Nick. You just listened to another great episode,

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