Music Industry Harsh Truths, Love is Blind, and Aliens

0:00 Did you buy a new cat or anything? Got a new dog in your life? Nope, just one that's dying. You want to talk about that? Oh, my God. It's going mad at hell. Wow. And we're back. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco. How's our heads? How's our minds? How's the music industry doing? Oh, I love it. I love the music industry. Yeah, it's so great. It's so fun. Is every industry bad? It's so fun. It's so fun dealing with everyone.

0:42 I like how there's no narcissist in it. Yeah, not one. Or people who are like, really have a big ego. Or daykeeping. Yeah, or pretentiousness. Yeah. Hollywood wannabe shit, but you live in Denver. Isn't it crazy how it's just such a pure industry? It's so pure. I love it. Yeah. Anyway, how you doing, Nick? Good. Just being gatekept. Yeah. What if I'm your gatekeeper? I'm like, no one gets funny, man, unless I get a little pocket, a little nut. That's really wide open for a joke there I'm not going to make.

1:24 Just say it. No, because it's racist. No, it's more anti-Semitic, I guess. Is that racist? Ooh. Oh. Yeah, that's racist. You were even doing the voice. Jesus Christ. What, you were doing the voice even? No one gets a little bit till I get a little. Yeah, but I'm not going to help him get some either. But I'm not going to help him get some either. I'm just going to take. Yeah. Oh, so you're an agent. No, no. Chill, chill, chill. No, I actually like agents. We've been over this. Agents bring money What? Agents bring all the money. I'm pro-agent actually I'm pro-agent You can actually Quantify what they do What? You can quantify what they do Explain Well like if they like You can actually There's a hard data to say Like they got you this much money More than you got last year True You know what I'm saying?

2:10 Everyone should call their agent Everyone Guys This is what you need to do Say I love you Tell your agent how much you love them Yeah. Send them 30 bucks Hey, grab my... Hey, Bo. Send him a Venmo for 30 bucks. Grab my phone. I'm going to call John Bon Joi. I was an agent for like a year one time. What? I was an agent for a while in like 2012. I was too. I was actually pretty solid. I was actually an agent during 2012 as well. Really? For who? Myself. Oh, okay. I did like some other like... I also booked... What's up, Bo? Thank you. Bo's back. I worked for Dan. Bo's back. He's back in the office. I worked for Dan Rosensky. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I.

2:50 Was pretty good at it For like The bands I was trying to book Couple people I want to call. One Your agent I Want to call Bayless Talk about our Bayless tour I want to talk about Um Let's call it Bon Giorno first Bon. Giorno Mets are out of it Hey You're on the podcast I just want to say hi We're uh, You're on the podcast. Yep. Yep. We're, this is, we're doing, what are we doing today? Calling our agent to thank them. Calling your agent to tell them thank you for all the work and all the hard data. For all the hard data you've been giving us. Great metrics this year. We just want to say thank you so much for all you do for us. Yeah, man. Thank you. Thank you for all you guys do. You guys work hard. I don't know.

3:35 You took me on the side here. I haven't even had coffee in like three hours. I know. Yeah, well, that's as good. You're not supposed to be crushing a bunch of coffee. Your heart's going to explode, John. Yeah. Oh, my God. I'm trying to get me a Celsius real quick. Proven to work. We're making sure all our bands, all the bands that listen to us, are going to call their agent and tell them how thankful they are that they bring all the money to the business. So I just want to say thank you so much for all that you do for us. Thank you for believing in us since the beginning. There's no bullshit here. We're just saying thank you. Yeah, it's going to be nine years next year. Whoa. Yeah, what'd you say? How was your fifth tenure?

4:15 What's a nine-year anniversary? Yeah, I think on my roster, if you look at it today, I think he's been on the roster the fifth longest of everybody, which, you know, I think that's true. Hold on, let me check real quick. I don't know. It feels like the right answer. Let's see if he's been longer. Okay. That would be Wood. Well, Sean Obama doesn't do it. So, Les Claypool, Dillon's Escape Plan. Oh. Okay. They've been around that long. That's three. New Master Sounds. That's four. My dudes.

4:57 And that's... But they're about to be dumped. And Dweezil Zappa is five, so you're six. Let's fucking go. Who's five? Dweezil Zappa. Oh, nice. He has the longest, actually. He's 20 years. Holy shit. I know. I was like in middle school looking at Dweezil Zappa shows. Well, John, I just want to, you know, no bullshit aside. There's no prerogative here. I just want to say thank you. Thank you for all your help. It's my prerogative. Thank you. I'm working so hard and always being there to, you know, always showing up and never canceling shows except for that one time. Except that one time. You felt so guilty that time.

5:38 I know. You couldn't get over it. You were like, you know, you lived to the gym. I don't cancel shows. I'm always there for people, right? I'm always there for people. Yep. Never cancel shows by hell or what you can swim across the ocean. As long as that deposit goes through. I think I've always been there I'll see you Wednesday At the meeting buddy I'll talk to you soon Alright Love you buddy Bye The weekly meeting There John Bongiorno Thank. You Kiss your agent He knows exactly Why I did that. I don't actually know What's going on right now But I can kind of Figure it out I guess No Nothing There's no prerogative There's no gaslighting. Prerogative means choice Yeah I have a choice Okay.

6:19 I don't know If you're exactly Doing that word right But okay you got a Better There's no gaslighting There's no passive aggressiveness I just wanted to thank Thank the agent for bringing us a majority of the money. That's all. Can I hear that? How you doing? I'm good. I'm a little tired, but I'm pretty good in general. Yeah. Looking forward to a great week. What are you tired of? Just like tired. I don't know. You know what I'm tired of? Let me fucking tell you. Oh, God. Gas prices. Hotel costs. Flight costs. Okay. All right. That's all. Gas is. Is it high right now? I never even look. What? At gas prices, it's just like nothing I can do about it. Nothing I can do about it. When people complain about gas prices, it's like it's magic juice that makes you go 80 miles an hour and you're complaining about it.

7:04 No, no, no. You ever think about that, though? And then the people who complain are the ones who forcefully bought a car that only has like six miles per gallon. Yeah, exactly. You don't need that Ford or F-150. You're a salesman for an insurance company. You don't need to. What do you know about that? people bitch about gas, but they like, they're paying $700 a month for a fucking car that only has six miles per guy. And then they Uber everywhere because they're alcoholics. Dude, you know what? Fuck. By the way, Fuck the DMV I was there all day today For what? I've been on tour for 7 months And my tags are, No you do it online They won't let me I had to go inside And then they took me to some machine that does it automatically And then they wouldn't let me even get the tags So now I have to ride dirty For another 2 months until, 2026 tags are ready to go.

8:00 On your personal vehicle? Yes Well, luckily no one in Denver gets a shit about that and no one gets pulled over. I've gone two tickets now. Parking tickets, but like with my tags expired. I have a friend. Fuck you, Cherry Creek. I won't say who he is. He has 2021 registration on his car and he hasn't gotten pulled over once. In Denver? Damn. They got bigger problems here, I guess. Damn. You don't really see a lot of cops. I don't want to jinx myself. I don't want to jinx myself. Yeah. No, I'm not trying to jinx myself. I drove to Blackhawk and I was like driving dirty, but I also was sober. Did you gamble? I just had a meeting with the bosses of Volume. Shout out. Yesterday? Yeah. He took me out to dinner. How'd it go?

8:41 It was good. He loves, he thinks our podcast is really popping off. Numbers are up. And he likes to thank Jack. Yeah, the numbers have gone, this is the highest our numbers have been for a long time. Yeah. So I like to thank Jack. I like to thank Matt. I like to thank Eva. I like to thank you. Thanks, Nick. A thankless cog in the wheel. Didn't you like when I said, oh, yeah, me and Nick have a podcast together. We're fucking partners. What's the podcast name? Andy Frasco's World Saved Podcast. Was that on again? Where was that? Was that on tour, like talking to somebody? I can't remember. We were talking to someone on the weekend. That was really funny, though. Yeah, you're like, yeah, we have a podcast together. We're equal partners. Everything is equal and we're the same.

9:22 What's it called? Andy Frasco's podcast. The Andy Frasco podcast featuring Andy Frasco, a special guest Andy Frasco. Produced by Andy Frasco, directed by Andy Frasco. edited by Andy Frasco yeah yeah yeah, I'm sorry for. I don't care I think it's funny actually so I don't care Do you think I am. Like that? No I mean it was called that before I was on it No do you think I am like that? Do you think I share the ball? Yeah you're fine I've never been pissed at you about anything like that Because we've Had a little band drama. Here we go Lock in people We've had a little band. Drama Everybody just went like this in their car. Everybody just lean forward like it was the end of a Madden game.

10:06 We've had a whole band drama and, you know, we're just kind of just laying our cards out on the table. I mean, I realize we haven't done that ever in the existence of our career, 15 years. Really? You've never laid the cards out? I've never laid the cards out. Ultimatum style? Ultimatum and just what I want. You know? Yeah. I always just kind of, it was really freeing to me to finally say exactly what i wanted yeah in something instead of just like keeping it in because you didn't don't want to like um piss people off you know like i i think the reason why i get passive aggressive because i'm afraid to talk to actually communicate so i don't communicate which makes me passive aggressive which also means i'm basically fighting with my own fucking head right for not actually being honest does that make sense it.

10:57 Makes sense there's a i think it helps that you're more successful like you can be more like that when you're more successful like 10 years ago you just kind of have to take what you can get you know right when it comes that's true when it comes to band members it's like what are you gonna do like ask someone to come work for you for 75 bucks a week And then tell them exactly what you're doing wrong yeah you. Gotta pay a certain amount of money before you can be bossy Yeah well i always feel bad about that because you know we all started this we all started music because it was free you know it made us feel free you know it made us feel like rock and why i started rock and roll is because in my imaginary head now i realize it's completely, fucking off i know man the music industry is the least freeing thing on the planet well.

11:44 I don't know about that that would be bold on the point yeah i know what you mean though Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. In entertainment. Least freeing thing versus what you thought was free. Okay, that's fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like there's other things that are terrible. Of course. But you know they're terrible. Yeah, I overjad her. I'll never forget. When I first started dating Julie, I don't know, she'd start going to backstage and stuff and thought it was fun. And she's like, the music industry is such a beautiful thing. And I was like, bitch, wait six months. Now what she's saying about the music industry. Now she works in it. I know what she's saying about it. She hates everybody, man. No, not really. But she definitely, like, doesn't suffer fools, you know? There's a lot of weird ego going around these days.

12:24 Well, yeah, it's like... Everybody's trying to make up for their failures. Chill, chill, chill. It's not their fault they failed. I'm just saying, like... You're never going to, almost no musician gets to where they dreamed of. Oh, you're saying as a whole. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it takes a lot to be a fucking musician. There's no guarantees. I'm not trying to like woo is me bullshit. Mm-hmm. But it takes a lot to fucking make this your full-time job. Girl, you ain't lying. And it's not like, you have to be fucking dedicated. Yeah. And if you're not dedicated to it 120%, it's going to fucking eat you up. Just getting good at your instrument.

13:04 Exactly. Just that level. And that's 10% of it. That's like the least important thing now. It's just sort of annoying, right? Or just like you get to the point where you're a really good musician, but you're also at that point where everyone who graduated college is a good musician. So how are you going to stand out? Right. I think a lot of people have a problem like with embarrassing them. Like it's a little embarrassing to promote yourself. You know what I'm saying? I think that kills a lot of people early. They don't want to like put themselves out there because they get shamed. I don't know. Everyone calls me a cheap ass because I haven't moved up to a big ass tour bus. I'm like, what's the point? What's the also like, once you go there, your band and everyone, your crew is expecting you to be on a tour bus.

13:46 They're already divas. When I got them to the bandwagon. It's not that much different than the bandwagon. Is it? There's a little more space, but a little, but not really. But I mean, you know, compared to where you were two years ago, You can't, you can never go backwards. The minute you start going backwards, everyone starts fucking over-guessing, the fans saying, oh, this band dropped off, or this band dropped off. Oh, we're expecting one thing. We want that now. Yeah, yeah. You know, you can't. So like- Yeah, armchair quarterbacks. Yeah, armchair quarterbacks. Jam band fans are really bad about that, actually. Yeah. They love to get involved in the business shit. It's like fancy football for them or something. But like, the fans have no idea how much it actually costs. No.

14:26 They're just fucking, they're playing fantasy football coach. Yeah, exactly. That's what's bullshit. And then that puts more pressure on the musician that's already having pressure internally. And it's like they revel in it. They like want people to fail weirdly. You know what I'm talking about? I don't understand that shit. I don't get, when did we get to a society where we are looking forward to people's failures more than we're looking forward to our people's successes? The American way. But I think that's the problem. The American dream made people so competitive that we don't have each other's backs anymore. But it's like these people aren't even in music. They're just fans and they're still rooting. And then they root for one band against... I don't know. It's so stupid.

15:10 But it's even with like... How do I explain this without fucking burning it? But it's even with people who get... It's even people with setting up festivals or setting up tours. They're always going to pick what benefits the business instead of benefiting... Maybe the musician wants this band to come on tour. Martians are razor thin. That's why everybody's operating in a very low budget. I know, but if margins are super thin, we all got to work together and kind of play ball with each other.

15:56 Yeah. Tour bus is inflating their costs just because they can. That's insane. Fucking up the living economy of touring that makes bands not want to tour. And then they wonder why they're inflated it because now bands are like, no, I'm good. I'm making money off fucking. Bandwagon. Bandwagon or Twitch. Yeah, yeah. It's like they don't realize the ripple effect of not being in this together. Right, because they're like in that weird capitalist mindset where they're like focused on right now instead of five years from now. And that's why a lot of those tour bus companies will probably go out of business at some point.

16:37 Yeah. Tour buses are going to go out of business. They did it to themselves. They did it to themselves. They overinflated when they're still trying to play catch up from five years ago during COVID. They're caught up, dude. They're caught up. I'm sorry. You're caught up. Start balancing the checkbooks a little bit. Yeah, dude. Don't you want to build a relationship with your clients? Tour bus companies, they piss me off so much. It's a racket. So is... So is rental gear companies. Yeah. They overcharge. For sure. Because they know you have to. 200 bucks for a keyboard for an hour or something. They've already made their money on it. I know it's a business. Yeah. But like. What do they charge you? 10% of the cost of the instrument?

17:17 You wonder why these promoters aren't, festival promoters aren't making any money because. Uh-huh. They're getting overcharged by the stage company. Yeah. They're getting overcharged. Port-a-potties. By the port-a-potties. They're getting overcharged. Fencing. Fencing. So much shit goes into it. Rental gear. Security. They're getting overtrived by all that stuff. Undercover cops. And this is where I feel bad for, this is why I don't blame promoters for saying, fuck this. I don't want to do a festival anymore. Yeah, I'll go work in finance. Fuck it. Yeah. If you're going to be miserable, you might as well have a job where you make money. And, you know. And I feel like that's what musicians are doing too. You're mad today. I like it.

17:57 I'm not mad. You know what I mean. I'm just disappointed. Like a kid that got like C's on the report card I'm not mad I'm just disappointed I'm just not you know When do we become a country, That is just We're just so We just think of just ourselves Reagan, And that's not a community And that's why I think what makes me sad Is we become people Who are if you're Not in my four people echo chamber. I do not give a fuck about you. Yeah. And I don't care. I'm protecting my herd or whatever.

18:39 Mm-hmm. But... Which is fine, but also we have to think about others, and we have to fucking play ball all around with different ideas, different landscapes, different ideologies, different thoughts, you know? Yeah, I'm with you, 100%. I just don't think it's going to change. It's never going to change. That's what makes me sad. I got in this rock and roll as rebellion. Yeah, it was. When did we stop being rebellious? Imagine Dragons, maybe? Actually, that's a good point. As soon as it Target commercials with Imagine Dragons. I mean, you know what I mean? When did we stop being rebellious as a country?

19:19 I'm telling you. America was a fucking rebel. The 80s. I'm telling you. It's all Reagan. Okay, explain this. It's just people started getting rich in the 80s and the whole finance thing and cocaine probably how it didn't hurt and just, you know, nationalism and I don't know. I just think it all started in the 80s. The 70s didn't really feel like that, did it? Yeah. But that's kind of when rock music started sucking. right about the it was more than 90s but Bands don't have each other's backs anymore no. It's like sports It's sports everything's competitive everybody talks you're on like the same management company or the same agency company no one's giving other bands a shot they're just going back to the well passive aggressive and everyone's pissed off about how successful they are nepo babies yeah i'm like i'm i'm the first time in my life i'm cool with my success yeah.

20:11 You're You're doing Great. Yeah, but I could judge my success on other people that I used to do. Slippery slope. Yeah, and I feel free that way. But the minute I started doing that, it's the minute I started... getting lazy with my competition. You know what you should do is also compare yourself to people who are doing much worse than you. We don't punch down, Nick. No, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying make fun of them. I'm just saying you gotta look at... No, and that's what I've done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's more of... We're losing the sense of community because we're making this so fucking competitive. Yeah. And that's what I... That's not the reason why I joined rock and roll. Is there too many bands?

20:51 If it was individual... I would have been a fucking band manager, which I was. Yeah, you're probably good at it. I was already a band manager. I'm sure you were good at it. For people who are listening to this podcast, I've already been a band manager. Why are they? Just, I don't know. I gotta speak subliminally, I can't. You're doing your wizard thing, I don't know, I don't understand it. I don't know, I don't understand passive aggressive stuff sometimes, I'm not very good at it. I'm not passive aggressive. Okay. I am more of, I've been in this industry for a long fucking time. And I think it's important that I have a say in this industry too. Yeah, of course. You're the one making all the, like generating all the income.

21:33 Not in my individual business. Oh, okay. I'm saying the people who are making the gatekeeping stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Should bring the people in who fucking did the dark work for 20 years. That's true. Who was in the nid and gritty. Who knows what it takes to promote a show. Not the people who gave up on music when they're 20 and now they're 60 years old. You're speaking my language here, dude. And they're the ones running the things where they have no idea. They haven't been to fucking Manhattan, Kansas. Yeah, they haven't been anywhere, really. Right. Yeah. And that's what frustrates me. Those are my leads for people in the music industry. Why are they pushing us out?

22:14 Because they're nerds. I don't mean, they're just, They're jealous. No, it's competitive. Well, that too, but competitive and jealous kind of all goes together. Is this crazy talk right now, Jack? You think so? Am I really being that crazy right now? No, you're being pretty much 100% correct, actually. But it's not like, I'm not attacking anyone. This is a broad stroke. Yeah, broad stroke. This isn't on my individual pains. It's on the industry's individual pains of how we're going to figure out how to make this music industry successful for another 100 years to the next generation. Yeah. Right? Yeah, or 10 years even. 10? Fuck, 3? Yeah, it's not going good right now.

22:55 It's not going good. No one's buying tickets. No, everything's doing bad. Everything's inflated. The fucking CEO of Live Nation said they should be more expensive tickets. That guy pissed me off so bad, dude. That's what I'm saying. The guy making $150 million a year. What are we doing here? What does he do that he gets $150 million a year off concert tickets? We're not doing it for the money. No. Well, some people are. But musicians don't make any money. Yeah, no one's like, I'm going to play saxophone so I'm going to be rich someday. No. We lost the meaning of why we're doing music. And that is what makes me sad. Yeah. I'm with you on that. You know, we played music for the get out, the getaway.

23:35 I'm sorry. This is a 24 minute rant. I like it. It'll be more fun later. Yeah. Just stick around. We'll be live nation hit 7 billion in revenue for second quarter. So that's 28 billion for the year. You know, assuming like it's ever all equal. How much of that's profit though? $6 billion in profit. Yeah, fucking, come on, dude. That's a country. Yeah. That's a country in Europe. And you want to charge more for tickets. And this guy already makes $150 million a year. And I'm not, you know, We all have to play ball. I'm not talking shit. I'm not either, but fuck that guy kind of though. What, the CEO? Yeah. Whatever. It's whatever. He's the CEO trying to make more money for his company. That's different. I guess, but.

24:15 What we have to figure out as a community for live music and how we're going to keep all these. I'm talking about the vendors who fucking do the festivals, the festival promoters who now aren't taking risks to do festivals anymore. That's most of our bottom line for musicians, especially in the jam scene. We make money off fucking summer festivals. We don't make money off club shows because the venues are charging too much for the rooms, yada, yada. we all need to be in a line together to say everyone the bout we need to balance this shit what.

24:55 You're calling for is a union almost I'm sounding like a real socialist right. Now yeah but You're sounding like bernie sounders right now old bernie sanders the problem. With that is like we can never have a musician's union because all the musicians would have to do it together and they're never going to do that But everyone needs to like say okay i get the old model worked but it's like, from CD to digital you know everyone had great model when we were selling CDs yeah we went to digital they changed the model yeah it should be the same while we're losing all these big festivals yeah that's all I'm saying. That makes sense Anyway how was your day my day better than yours am I gonna get in trouble for that why.

25:39 Did you even say that was you didn't even attack anybody I know you were being very broad I'm just It's just fucking It's just like Everyone's like We're a team We're a fucking team We're a team brother We're a team We're the music industry We're a fuck We're the outlaws We're the outlaws Oh really? Mm-hmm Then let's be a team Let's actually be a team Yeah. Until it's time To pick your openers It's like our seventh evil frasco. Here he is. My headphones are cutting out. There we go. I'm back. Am I wrong? No, you're right. That's the problem. That's why you're mad. Am I wrong, Jack? Bo, am I wrong?

26:24 He's seen the P&Ls. I'm working our ass off out here. Bo is fucking working. He's the hardest working man. In show business. In fucking show business. Yeah, dude. He works for you. He's on that and he's on ***. He's on everything. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, bleep ***. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bleep ***. But, you know, but you know what I'm saying. I'm with you 100%. These type of guys deserve the talking to for everyone leveling out the industry. Not me. Mm-hmm. You're fighting for the guys who are running lights. Yeah. You're fighting for the guys who are engineers. Monitors. Everyone who runs the syllabus of the business. Not just the suits in the fucking 30-foot floor, the 30th floor delegating work.

27:07 Someone needs to fight for those guys. The guys that don't go to the show unless it's in L.A. Oh, man, my dad's going to fucking hate these. Like, you turned into a real socialist. Yeah, but you're right. I know! You're not being a communist, at least. No. Ew. I'm not saying even shitty musicians need to make the same amount as money. No, there's also too many bands. I don't know. I think less and less bands are coming out than ever. Yeah, maybe there's too many musicians actually Well, We all got sold The American dream that you could do whatever you want Yeah, that's a lie, Maybe it was Back then when there was less people But now overpopulation Now you can't do whatever you want It's about how hard you're gonna work To get what you want Then.

27:50 You might still Fail And you might still fail and you gotta be okay with that But at least in your brain you fucking tried Yeah. It's better to fail than not try Rebellion. This is why we're in the music industry. People. Yeah. Don't be as scared to rebel. All right. So you got, did you buy a new cat or anything? Got a new dog in your life or? Nope. Just one that's dying. You want to talk about that? Oh my God. It's going mad in hell. I'm just not mad. I'm not mad. I'm more just like. You're not wrong. I'm like past mad. I'm just like kind of defeated. And that's what bones me out.

28:31 Yeah. I got to know what inspired this today. What? I got to know what inspired this today. Um i don't want to get into it the main details are not important it's just the the syllabus of how how we're running this industry is um unethical to how i yeah that's true the reason why i joined the music industry when i was fucking 11 years old reading all you need to know about the music industry by donald pass in my first ever book at 11 years old i read that book in guerrilla marketing and i'm like and it's the same reason why i got fucking fired at geffen records at 19 when i wrote them a 200 page fucking i wrote her pages i wrote a 200 page business outlook of how we can approach this is 06 right after napster when everyone's the stealing's done now it's going to spotify and like new world and i wrote this whole beautiful marketing plan beautiful i sound like trump there i sound i wrote this i wrote this great marketing plan and they fired me they.

29:33 Probably took all your ideas and fired They fucking fired me that was that was when i started become evil andy evil andy just like i'm gonna start a i'm gonna start a new form of how musicians i'm i'm gonna teach musicians how to fucking be self-sufficient with their shit how to be fucking powerful in your own world and not relying on others to for your success the only way you are six your success is if you put fucking ownership in the work ethic that you fucking do i'm gonna clap for myself thank you. So you've been watching Love is Blind at all? Yeah, I love Love is Blind. That pisses me off too.

30:16 I'm like, I moved to Denver because we're fucking weird. And I saw fucking Love is Blind and they fucking, I told you, I got through, I was going to be on that show. No, I didn't even hear about this. Yeah, I didn't tell you this last year? No, no. Dude, the producer called me up and said, hey, you're like a famous single person in Denver. Love is gay. i'm like you know so i was thinking about like that'd be fun to do yeah but also fucking you gotta get married terrorizing though right well they they start you know they start nick picking yeah yeah yeah your personal flaws how. Christian are you how many kids do you want to have yeah it's the most boring people i've ever seen in my life But they shouldn't you know bo had a good point they should do a little more of the other side of fucking denver yeah it's.

31:01 Like It's all like CU Boulder finance graduates. Yeah, they had a guy selling watches in Dillon. Like, who fucking buys watches in Dillon? Also, what kind of... No wonder you're single. Like, the homie's wearing a $200,000 Paddock watch. Oh, really? I was like... Damn. This is not a fucking Colorado... This isn't who I see at fucking Don's. No. Or this isn't the fucking crowd I see at Cervantes. And they're all, like, weirdly, kind of weirdly conservative. I don't mean politically. I'm just talking about, like, their lifestyle. Yeah. They're like... Like, where's the... No one has the bag on them. I've never seen a Tanner in Denver. No, I don't see him anywhere. It's like none of these guys has the bag on them. This is Denver, dude. One of these guys got to have the bag on them. Yeah. Someone told me one of the guys, the real estate broker, has like scammed like fucking 50 people.

31:44 Julian was telling me that. He's scammed my favorite Asian restaurant. What'd he do? I don't know. She just said he scammed him, but who knows? He probably just like fucked him over in some deal. Oh, yeah. How are you going to scam over immigrants? Ryan Dempsey. Uh-oh. Ryan. Hey, Ryan, you're on the podcast. Oh, good. I'm happy to be on your podcast. Ryan Dempsey from Twiddle. Give it up for Ryan. Hey, Ryan. Yay! Can I clap? Yeah. What's going on? What do you know about these aliens? Good. Things are getting so crazy right now. Congress is literally like they're all looking into you UAPs.

32:29 So the word UFO became UAPs, and there are the anomalies that can go from one to 300,000 miles. I mean, yeah, like in the ocean, my friend from the Navy says they go one to 300,000 miles an hour. Oh my God, it's nuts. And the weird part, though, is they also know exactly where the jets that are chasing them and firing missiles are going to land. And they fired a missile at it, and it just kind of just blew it apart.

33:14 Oh, yeah. They're way smarter than us. Do you think they're here to harm us? So the thing they're here to say, we, you guys, I know you guys have the matches. You're going to stop. I, I would say the same thing. Like the kids have the matches. I think dad's coming home and saying you need to stop. So let's fucking, let's all take care of each other, you know, lock in and lock in. Yeah, baby, let's lock it. Atlas is coming. We better lock in. What's lock in. Atlas is coming. Lock it. Yeah. Andy, can I ask you for like a hundred grand and I promise I'll pay you back?

34:00 Shit, my phone's dying, Dempsey. I got to call you back. Sorry. Hey, bud, I do owe you a call. Let me get through this podcast and I'll call you today. I love you, buddy. Thanks for answering. Love you, bud. Love you, bud. You love your bands, don't you? You really love your bands. If you really want to love your bands and you really love your bands and want to support them the real way, head to volume.com and subscribe. Volume.com! Yes, this is the best live stream company in the business. Get your bands paid. You can subscribe for five bucks a month. The shows are super quality. They have great cameras, great audio, backstage footage, extra live streams.

34:41 You want to get closer to the artist too? Where you get to meet us. It's like I'm doing Monday morning motivations where we could all have coffee together and talk about how we're going to achieve and attack the week. So this is how you could support your favorite artists. Head over to volume.com and let's get personal. Anyway, aliens to the music industry. What else do you want to talk about? Jesus Christ. What a fucking episode. Halftime show? Oh, yeah. Love is blind. Love is blind. Then I was pissed. Then this whole week has been crazy. Then I was kind of pissed. It's a J.Crew. Commercial. It looks like a J.Crew commercial in that fucking shit. I'm like, Love is Blind is really going to portray Denver, my fucking hometown? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I fucking love. Douchebags. It looks like they all like- I was like, but I'm getting sidebars. Like, you live here, bro?

35:26 I'm like, you're watching Love is Blind too, bro. Looks like a Chainsmokers crowd. Trying to inject some comedy into this. Let's call Bayless. Let's call Bayless. Oh. Wow, what a... He might be picking up the kids at school. The Bayless Frasco tour was amazing. We'll talk about that for a second. He knows. If I'm calling him at 320, he knows. He might be baseball. Oh. Call me. Jack, how we feeling about this episode, bud? I actually think it's kind of good. It's not like hilarious, but I think it's good. You know what I mean?

36:10 It's thumping. It's better than nothing. Oh, look it. Life's not always going to be fucking roses and butterflies. Nope. Almost never is, actually. The festival is fun, though. Holy smokes. Yeah, I want to hear about this. So you went to Cleveland of all places and had a festival. We did. I can't. Little Stranger is really big in Ohio. Really? And we're decently big. We'll do pretty well in Columbus. It was a good meeting of the minds, but that fucking Nelson's Legends. I loved it. It's a great place. Yeah. But some of the people who run that thing is pretty wild. Scary, huh? They're like Hell's Angels and shit running that shit. Yeah. They had one person. Cause they also Like It was a great experience Like 2,600 people showed up 2,600.

36:52 Browns fans Hell Yeah And it was like Only We only had three weeks To promote it I know So it was like People really wanted to come But also like Right next to the campgrounds There's like Where people Like people just rent Like a fucking trailer park Or whatever There's camping, That part of the area A lot of people Were getting kicked out For like smoking crack and shit Oh shit. Hell yeah But that was not associated With the festival Yeah No. It was like, it was just, the place is so beautiful. Yeah. I've been there. It's awesome. I played a couple festivals there actually. But we had a fucking blast and we went in the crowd and it showed how much love. They just wanted a stranger and us to throw a festival and I think, we're going to do it every year, right? Should we do it every year? We probably should. Little Strangler.

37:34 Huge success. That's my cereal. I mean, that was more people, more people showed to them than a lot of these festivals were going to. For sure. That's my cereal co-name actually I just realized. What? Little Strangler. Little Strangler. Oh fuck that was so funny. A lot of browns jerseys out there I saw I like that hell yeah man But other than that it's been good it looked. Really like it went really well how'd the band play Band played great I thought our second show was better than our first because why I don't know, me and Strange is a little bit of this competition which is kind of like a healthy competition I guess but we still like you know even when we're competing we still have each other's backs.

38:15 God damn it Why am i like this today i don't. Know man you were pretty chill right before the let me turn the mics on here we go baby i'm not mad it's i mean you're right I'm like not mad. No i just Feel just disappointed i'm about i'm just disappointed yeah yeah yeah i just you know want us all to come together, lock in before atlas shows up i'm. Ready for atlas let's do something new man i'm just like i'm ready for some new shit man fuck it Do you think i just don't want them to like i don't want to if they're gonna kill us i want them to kill us like right away i don't want this to be like a fucking slow.

38:56 No no no i want to be vaporized and just go to wherever Just go just take us just whatever it's fine let me. Get some tacos first maybe one last time or something but like i don't know maybe I've always thought it'd be kind of cool to be alive for the end of the world. Yeah, it'd be fun. People always get weird when I say that. I'm like, well, Someone- We also don't have kids, so it's not as scary for us. That's true. We don't have kids or anything really. We don't have anything to look forward to. We don't have any purpose or meaning in our life, so yeah. Nothing matters. It is much easier. Woo! World Saving Podcast today is just super sad. We're like, World Saving Podcast. Let's end the world. No, no. I don't think. I think they come and give us knowledge. I'm going to be optimistic about this. If the aliens come, they're gonna come just. Like why would they come all the way here to kill us because we're not a threat to them so maybe you're right Right what would they do they need our resources they're gonna travel that.

39:43 Long what if they need water okay then we're fucked Then we're fucked. If they got here they have more they have better shit than us who do you know That knows aliens do you know anyone know an alien. I mean the aliens thing is pretty interesting I just feel like nothing ever happens it's always some threat of this every two years and then nothing happens right it's gonna be a do You know about Project Bluebeam. Ooh what's that Ooh. Sounds like Project Bluebeam. Sounds like an ice cream company. This is turning into a Rogan podcast immediately. Yeah. Without all the viewers. Project Bluebeam is Serge Monisat. What's that? That's the guy that thought of it probably. The Canadian. He's dead actually. What is Project Bluebeam? Drones.

40:23 It's basically like the recent surge of mysterious drones, blah, blah, blah, Project Bluebeam. Since mid-November. The lack of answers. Yeah, it's like this. They're faking the alien invasion. They're faking the alien invasion. I mean, that seems like some shit, because there's a bunch of shit they're doing they don't want people to see, Epstein files, et cetera. Huh. Everything's just a distraction, man. Everything's just so distracted, man. With soda it's so hard to give a shit anymore this episode Should be called dun. Dun dun i know we need to have a dun dun dun counter in the corner can we do that brian i don't know yeah i don't know what's Really fucked up about this ai thing is like i think this is actually good for social media because no one will fucking want to be on social media anymore because everything is so fake.

41:07 Oh yeah it already was but now you can like actually prove it now It's just like boring there's no. Realness yeah social media is kind of dead we already talked i'm Kind of over social. Media it's just not fun so What are we gonna do with our business then if social media is. Dead i mean it's good for marketing but i'm just talking about like the yeah it's a good marketing platform but besides that like just like the shit where it's like i don't know just like post about opinions is stupid but it's it's good to reach people i Think so too. I don't know like it's you know the more good something has the more bad it has i guess for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction newton's third law of thermodynamics you Know like all All jokes aside, between Love is Blind, I kind of love these, like, social experiments about getting married shows. Have you seen Married at First Sight?

41:48 No, what's that all about? It's like you marry someone right away, and then you have to, like, work it out. A girl that comes to trivia regularly, I'm not going to say her name, was on one of the seasons of that. Really? Yeah, she comes every week. I'll show you. Did she divorce her? Yeah, it didn't work out. I mean, only a crazy, like, the guy was worse than her, but it's for crazy people. And then they edit it to make you look even, editing is a powerful tool, man. You know? Yeah. You can make people look really crazy with some good editing. Yeah. Can you imagine if you cut down all the shit I said out of context? I could be the most racist man on earth. Well, that's the problem with this, like, open, like, the Sora thing. You heard about the Sora thing? Yeah. Open-faced AI where you could kind of, like, if you have, you could have control of people's AIs that make these videos.

42:31 Yeah. I don't know. There's going to be good stuff and obviously terrible stuff that comes out of it, but just like every other thing. The problem is you can't fight it. Open my AI so people can make videos, I think it'd be fun for my fans. Yeah, I think Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's not that. I don't think you have to license yourself. It'd be awesome if like. Hopefully there's a way you can find to make money off it. That'd be cool. Holy shit, Frasco's the Pope. I remember people believed it. Just throwing oil on people. Yeah, throwing oil. Throwing Jagermeister. What would your Pope name be? Because you have to change your name when you're Pope. Is it Sir? No, it's Pope something. Oh. Like Pope Leo's name isn't Pope. Pope. Because it isn't Leo. It's like John. Open A, right, copyright. it's.

43:12 Like when uh the queen does that too you know Open ai to explain this this okay go down so ai the copyright stuff it's it's been weird to see how a how ai performs on stuff that you can't you can't say hey i need you to uh put me in a star wars form no. I can't do That but if you say all the things that star wars is then they put it in that's still copyright infringement i. I did that to make my friend look Arab the other day. Hey, come over here. Talk about it. We have our tech guy here. Jack. Jack, producer, get in this mic. So what's going on? So the issue is that OpenAI doesn't care about anyone's copyright.

43:58 Put the mic closer to you. Or intellectual property. Okay. And so their policy is basically we're going to do it anyway and we'll see if anyone finds us for it or sues us for it or whatever. Well, that's bad for the music industry. Oh, yeah, it's bad for every industry. And so there's going to be a bunch of lawsuits and eventually they will have- Who are they suing, though? ChatGPT? Yeah, people will be suing OpenAI. So like Disney will sue OpenAI or Nintendo or whatever these companies are whose IPs are being used without their consent. Right. So there will be a bunch of lawsuits. open ai will probably lose those lawsuits and have to pay a bunch of money but they don't care because basically as long as they get there first and get the most users as quick as possible they'll make so much money that even if they have to pay billions of dollars of fines and stuff it's worth it yeah yeah so what's the difference between uh chat gpt and google ai.

44:59 Um none really yeah they're kind of the same things they have uh the thing is like google owns youtube so they're able to crawl youtube oh wow um for stuff for ai um versus open ai doesn't have their own platform so that's why they're letting everybody just feed them stuff um but yeah it's it's like the tech company that's how they all do it basically it's like the move fast and break things mark zuckerberg deal like we'll just build it and then we'll pay the fines and it doesn't really matter right which shows a really broken economic system i t is yeah it's like everyone's like just sue me yeah and this is a battle of how much money you have yeah and that's not fair either what that's like uh well that the wealth is that two percent and then everyone else can't afford to sue the two percent yeah you know it's it's uh oligarchy you know that's great we're in russia now wow anyway another this is like another sobering podcast of all time should we not post this one maybe is just for the archives i don't know for the for the only frasco subscribers yeah.

46:14 Hello, everyone. It's Eddie Frasco, your local drunk. We're here to support Gardenista. Gardenista, our sponsors. So I've been substituting this from Jameson because I like the idea that there's ginger, lime juice, and green herbs in this. So I kind of feel healthy drinking this. And they got all these different ones. Like, I was kind of nervous about this bourbon cocktail. But it's bourbon whiskey, green herbs, lime juice, ginger, and jalapeno. It's got a little spice to it, but you put some ice in it, and it's actually a cocktail. and like I'm not really good at proportions so it's already made for you. Look at this. It's cute too. It could be on your table. You'd be like, oh, looky, you're sophisticated. Do you want pop-off on your kitchen table or do you want something that's pretty?

46:55 Gardenista. Vodka cocktail. Grab it. Tell them Frasco sent you. All right, guys. Are we done here? No, I'm not done. And another thing! Hold on. Let's call Todd. Oh, God. Maybe Todd will have something nice to say. Andy Frasco. Let's keep it going. Yeah, let's put this one on the Patreon or whatever, or the only Frasco. I think this could be fun. No, I think it's actually not that bad. Everything doesn't have to be fucking... God damn it, Todd. Damn, he put you on do not disturb, co. Call me. Kale me. Um, kakale me. Um, the thing with the... It's like what we've been... I've been harping on this for years. Tech nerds should not be in charge of anything.

47:37 They should not be running companies. They should definitely not be in anything creative. They've never made anything They got picked on their whole life And now they're taking it out in the world I've been saying this And guess what, I was right, unfortunately I hate that I was right, but I was Today Josh Fairman called me When I was in the shower Just to ask me a trivia question Oh really? He goes, what play was Lincoln watching When he got shot in the head And I knew it They were impressed So if you know it, put it in the comments Hold on it's called a call to Action a call to action I'm calling my dad oh no, he's got something to say President Frasco he's got something to say he won't answer he knows everyone doesn't answer now because they know if I'm calling them randomly at 3.30pm yeah yeah yeah, they know they're on the podcast the phrase.

48:32 Nazi Spongebob is in this article so that's cool Nazi Spongebob oh yeah I heard about that. AI's gonna heal everything Nope, Nazi Spongebob AI's gonna make everything so much easier You're not gonna have to do your taxes anymore Something's gonna take out the trash for you Actually, nah, Nazi Spongebob now you have to do menial tasks your calendar will be done someone's going to send emails for you Nazi Spongebob sorry people got it we're making Nazi Spongebob instead quality of life is going to go up so much we're going to live longer it's going to be easier everything's going to get cheaper Nazi Spongebob I do like this Soar app it's kind of.

49:17 Fun it's just fun Yeah, until you get Nazi Spongebob. Until you get Nazi Spongebob. Or whatever version of that. We're going to get Nazi Frasco at some point. We're going to get Nazi Frasco. Criminal Pikachu, you know what I mean? Criminal Pikachu. Sexual Assault Spider-Man. Look at this one I made. Look at this one I made. So stupid. But you could do like... Finance Bro Bart Simpson. I did Jake Paul holding hands on the beach and saying, will you and very slowly, cuts back to Jake say do a line with me. Well that's funny. It looks like you? No it looks like Jake. Jake's the one who has open AI. He said you can make whatever you... Yeah.

49:58 Jake's always on the cutting edge of whatever's going on unfortunately. I did this one. Yeah you. Fuck you. And you over there? Fuck you. Not you. You're cool. But you? Fuck you. Back row? Fuck you. You with the laptop? Fuck you too. And the whole side section? Fuck off. You just type in like a two sentence prompt and it makes you do it You can make a paragraph. Oh my god i'm gonna spend all night so dude I i had so much fun last night. I need a bag in that i Need a bag in that um all right guys. Anyway follow your dreams what's cool about ai is it's gonna like it will like go ahead and like like all these like stupid things no nazi spongebob actually no well Like you know ai's getting so good like, You don't believe anything anymore.

50:39 I never did to begin with. So now I believed everything. I know you. I was the believer of the American dream. Sometimes I just want to pet your head and say, yep, everything's real, buddy. Everything is real. Yeah. Nope. Mussolini, Rick and Morty. Sorry. All right, guys. You don't understand. This is going to usher in a utopia. Nope. Nazi SpongeBob. The tech people promised us a utopia and we got Nazi SpongeBob. Yeah, exactly. you know those posters Jerry. Jones is basically Nazi Spongebob anyway what you Know those posters of like the few in the 60s that made the picture of the future, just fucking flying cars all we have is Nazi Spongebob.

51:20 Now yeah exactly we do have flying cars they're called helicopters people yeah I've had those for a while I don't know yeah well people can barely fucking drive in Denver as it is on the ground and everybody's fucking tags are expired last thing I want is people in the air driving cars we Have Nazi Spongebob and p diddy that's our. Future real p diddy anyway Follow your dreams people yeah let's live. Here comes that fucking what's it called atlas here comes at what if it's just like 800 nazi spongebob We were real the whole time i. Told you they're just speaking german looking for andy frasco He's talking about freedom. Yeah we're here to fucking help the lakers this will help your fantasy football team guys it'll tell you who you start and sit who to drop it also will give you a lot of nazi spongebob that's funny a Lot of people are using chat gpt as their therapist.

52:17 Yeah i do that all the time i'm like am i cool am i smart am i handsome here's a picture of me am i handsome no i'm just kidding it's Pretty uh i haven't used it yet i use it. For stuff what Do you use it for. Um sometimes is just like a search engine to write trivia questions. So I'm like, give me 30 examples of celebrities who've gotten DUIs. It's easier than using Google. It kind of just does it for you. Puts them all in place or... just shit like that am I cool do people like me you know what I mean am I a burden on everyone around me should I just become Nazi Spongebob Nazi Spongebob is so fucking wild. Dude look at it it's right there where Is it I want to see a picture of it.

53:00 They want their AI generated things on the app like Nazi Spongebob criminal Pikachu Nazi Spongebob oh my god oh my god, oh my god. He's doing rogan next week actually did you know that there It is did you see it go back what nazi spongebob. He's going on rogan next oh word where's Like the actual movie. It's not a movie it's just like a character they made out of him oh My god that's so crazy. People are obsessed with nazis right now everyone's a nazi yeah why Does everyone love. Nazis it's just the only thing they know about that's bad. They can't, no one read anything or did any work. Why is he so happy?

53:42 I know. It's like Spongebob is happy to be a Nazi. He's luring me in with his smile. Chill, chill, chill, chill. Chill, chill, chill. Your best friend's Jewish. Yeah, yeah. Now you're my second best friend. Oh, I forgot the present. Damn it. You got a present? Kit got you a present for being my second best friend. Shut the fuck. Well, I'll just tell you what it is. What is it? A dream catcher. We can hang it right here. Fuck you, Kit. We can hang it right here. Fuck you, Kit. I'll bring it next time We'll Hang it I come and watch you I know exactly when you know When it's my fucking name My The Name on the That you have to pick For what? For trivia I know exactly you know You don't give it to me No he. Doesn't know I don't tell him anything It's very very good I liked our name last year Last week Julian's Black Friends Yeah but.

54:25 The winner was good too Government slut down Government slutdown's good. Government slutdown's pretty good. That's good. Yeah. You've won best team name. No. I don't get any respect here. Oh my God. Shut the fuck up. Everything is just, everyone just. Everybody's out to get Andy. Everyone's out to get him. Million dollar house with this podcast named after him. And it's selling out shit everywhere and fucking getting laid all the time. Yeah, man, it sucks. Everybody's out to get you, man. Shut the fuck up. Nope. I won't. I won't shut the fuck up, Andy. Because I'm Nazi Spongebob. You came on this earth just to fuck with me. It's good for you at least I do it in a loving I know I'm Acting like a whiny bitch but.

55:08 I'm not no you're not being a whiny bitch you weren't whining you were just laying it out there just laying it out there it's okay That's why I'm. Here it's your podcast that's Why I'm here. On you can talk about whatever you want on your podcast it's called Andy Fresco's Podcast okay a glimpse into the mind of Andy Fresco that's what Happened to Alex Jones and he got. Canceled you are not exactly doing what Alex Jones is doing he is Nazi Spongebob actually He is Nazi. Dude, did you see that picture of, have you seen him? He changed his mustache now, Adolf Hitler. Do Alex Jones' new mustache. It looks really good. I mean, it's terrible. Shut the fuck. Remember Michael Jordan did that for a Hanes commercial? Alex Jones' new mustache. Isn't that insane? I know he's doing this for a promo.

55:53 Well, obviously. To get clicks. He kind of looks like him. He has the Hitler mustache. He looks like him, too, like in the eyes a little bit. yeah he got sued for a billion dollars and lost and Then he's still on how is he who paid for that he had that much money. I don't think i think he's just funding it himself i'm done With this guy delete this. God damn this Guy's a piece. Of shit looks like my great uncle or something jones nazi spongebob like There's got to be the there's got to be something that balances all this shit out. There is but it's not interesting so people don't click on that what being good person isn't that interesting online so people i don't know you gotta be oh the opposite of that actually it's golden retrievers Balancing all this this like.

56:37 There's more good people than bad people the problem is bad evil Is not entertaining so people want. Any evil is more powerful i think actually why Are people more interested in evil than good. Because it's more shocking Okay no keep going. With this i just think it's more shot so i my whole thing is like it's evil is more powerful but the i do think there's way more good people than bad people that's why it only takes like one evil guy nazi spongebob for example to get all these people riled up uh and like do something like that or like you can give me another like who's another bad person in history mussolini like everyone didn't agree with him he just had power and was evil so it only takes like But like, I don't know.

57:18 Everyone thought Bob Ross was boring. Exactly. Bob Ross was a good guy. Yeah, exactly. It's boring to be a good guy. All the good people you don't know are just going to work and fucking raising their kids and donating to charity and cranking a hug a couple times a week or whatever. You know what I mean? It's these Nazi Spongebob's that are ruining it for everybody. I want to tell this story on the podcast because it kind of makes sense. When I picked up Bayless' kids and that kid was trying to make fun of me, like, you look like Bob Ross. And I just immediately said, Bob Ross got. Pussy to this fucking third grader. Nine-year-old. I'm like, what am I doing? Yeah. He was horrified. That guy was like, he ran away.

57:59 You do have a weird dichotomy where you're amazing with kids, but also I wouldn't want you around my kids. Bob Ross got pussy, kid, okay? You have such a weird dichotomy with children. Yeah, the kids really love me or they're fucking scared to death of me. Yeah. But I mean, like, you're good with kids, but also sometimes you say stuff that you shouldn't say around them, but also you're really good with them at the same time. It's like Billy Madison. Williams. William Madison yeah you're kind of like Nazi Spongebob you're like okay Gotta go gotta go hey guys like I said we're gonna have bad weeks it's fine I. Think this is a fun episode I just think you got serious for a while and that's okay No I'm saying like we're gonna have bad weeks in life we're gonna have serious weeks in life and that's fine you can't always be fun you can't always be sad you can't always just, be crazy but it's fun to have a little bit of all that this is what living is all about have a little crazy have a little get serious every now and then joke around don't take it so seriously fucking feel be sad yeah these are the every one out once crank one out fucking blow the load we're gonna we're gonna call you we're gonna call this festival next year holy loads clear the mechanism man holy loads we're just.

59:16 I'm going if it's called Holy Love. Full on Eric Metcalf Browns jersey. You know what I'm saying? It's okay to not feel yourself, feel like yourself every now and then because it tests you what yourself is and who you are is all the little things that make you beautiful. Not just one thing. The seriousness, the happiness, the sadness, all that we should celebrate. Not just the happy moments, not just the sad moments, the weird moments. And celebrate every inch of you. Oh, hot. That was very hot. Every girthy inch of you. Every girthy, veiny, cummy inch of you. Sorry, I really... And realize that every part of you is beautiful. Yeah. Okay?

59:58 And if you're mad at the halftime show, you're a bitch. Yeah, you're a bitch. Let me add that. Okay, yeah. If you're mad at the halftime show because he doesn't speak English... Get a life, dude. Fuck you. By the way, did you see the new news today? What? That one organization, Turning Point, they're doing their own alternative halftime show, christian halftime show They're gonna have like kid rock. No like christian like christian artists like kid rock's not religious enough for them they need like they're having like a revival it says it why oh america i don't want to get into religion but it says it's over for us i'm so sick of people acting like it's like no one can be christian it says in god we trust on our goddamn money we Got shows we're playing in boulder on the 17th. Yeah i got spongebob we're We're playing St. Augustine, Florida on the 19th.

1:00:43 That'd be fun. We're doing a private party. It's kind of culty. It's going to be awesome. Yeah, that's a cool company. They're fun. Yeah. You've got to get in with them somehow. Yeah, they're really cool. And then 24th, we're playing Chattanooga, Tennessee. Way down yonder on the Chattanooga. Ooh, Todd just called us perfect. Perf. Todd, Newport, Kentucky with Government Mule on the 25th. Oh. And Charlottesville, Virginia on the 26th. Shout out to everyone listening to the Warren Haynes episode. Yeah, dude, it's going really well. It's fucking crushing. He's an interesting guy. All right, here we go. Todd called. Andy Frasco.

1:01:23 Well, at least let's hear what Todd has to say about it. He'll be a good palate cleanser at all. He'll be a good palate cleanser, yeah. Oh, God damn it. I'm so sick of these people putting you on block, man. Call me. Try again the music industry is not supposed to be a competition we're supposed to be friends as long as I'm in first place Dude this new iphone is fucking horrible i can't even text, fuck apple dude i am one of the, i pay oh here he is i pay they are way too expensive i pay for a new phone every fucking year yeah and it's bullshit hi todd you're on the podcast i.

1:02:08 Am on the podcast you're on the Podcast Todd Glass, everyone. And Nick's here. Oh, I have to perform. Hey, I don't understand why, you know, like Reese's Cups, they double-stuff them, they do well. And then you see Oreos are doing very well double-stuffed. Kit Kats double-stuffed them, and they're doing well. So if I was the owner of a company, I would think, oh, people like double-stuffed shit, Americans. So what the fuck is Pop-Tart waiting for? Yeah, thanks, Todd. All right, hang up on it. Just hang up. Oh, they go, oh, double-stuffed the inside, double-stuffed. I said, double stuff the whole fucking thing and shove it in a pouch and I'll shove it up my ass and we call it a day. Andy, how can I help you? Todd, I want to talk about our, it's coming up.

1:02:50 We're doing the Todd Glass, Andy Frasco Thanksgiving Spectacular, where we're going to be taking mushrooms at your house and eating Thanksgiving. Can you tell the audience what is going to happen at this lovely event? Well, thank you for asking. Is anybody else with you? Nick Gerlach. He wants to come too. Nick, please. Hi, Nick. Okay. I'll make it simple. So I don't like a lot of, like, I like to enjoy things, not get caught up in the, you know, like, oh, I got to do this, I got to do that. You know, I always try to go, how can I enjoy the holiday, make it look cool, but with not a ton of effort? So what we do is, I said, last year, remember I said we'll have our favorite Thanksgiving sandwiches.

1:03:31 So some people bring turkey, bring stuffing, we'll put it all out with like five types of bread, people can come and they can make their own sandwich, right? Fuck that That was even too hard So I'm telling everybody It's still a lot of work I want it to look nice So this year I'm saying I don't care if you make it at your house Or there's somewhere in LA Where you know that makes a great Thanksgiving sandwiches Everybody brings like two or three For their favorite Thanksgiving sandwiches We get here, we cut them in three Put them in a basket And then I'm going to make like a Thanksgiving casserole Because that's easy Boom, you put it in a crock pot It's got everything in it You know, like turkey stuffing, all that stuff. Everybody bring it, and then it's out. If you want one at 6 o'clock, eat one. If it's 11 o'clock, you're hungry again, you go get another one.

1:04:17 What about the mushrooms, Todd? What about the mushrooms? Three minutes on sandwiches. I wouldn't be doing all this other shit if I wasn't fucked up on mushrooms. But are we going to do all this effort, and then we're going to be tripping dick and not be hungry? Well, you know, I'm sorry I told you the boring part. All Andy wants to know about is the mushrooms. Three minutes on sandwiches with no jokes. Probably sitting there rolling your eyes and all the other stuff. So, yeah, no, no, no, no, no. Because I did, we'll do, we'll eat later. You always get hungry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. That's true. But later you are. Todd. For me, do you have a third of a Thanksgiving sandwich? Not too much where you're stuffed and the mushrooms don't take effect. But that's all I wanted to say.

1:04:58 Todd, when did America lose its soul? They didn't. Don't get me started. No, I want to get you started. What do you think? I've been ranting about this most of the whole podcast. I need someone who has a different perspective on it. What do you think? Well, you know, Andy, I'll be honest. I give my perspective a lot because I feel like I'm one of the small few that have this perspective. You know, look, things are not good right now with what's happening in the world. But put that aside, even. A lot of these problems that we're having stemmed back even before, let's say even before Trump was in 2010. Let's go back to 2010, right? And I don't think it's because we decline. I hear people go, what happened? We just have civility. No, we didn't.

1:05:44 I agree. No, we didn't. How far back do you want to go? Was it civil that black people couldn't eat with white people? Was it civil that a woman couldn't do any jobs she wanted? Was it civil. That gay people couldn't get back? It's not civility. For maybe certain people, it seemed that way. But if you take a look at how we treated all human beings, it wasn't that simple. That's why I always, I love a good conversation. So if someone tries to throw it in, you know, whatever happened, that's when it ruins it for me. Even if I agree with the problem, I don't connect it to it used to be better. Does that make sense? How can we make it better? Well, that's a little more complex. But, oh, well, one, by realizing that it didn't used to be better. That's a start.

1:06:26 If you just go, oh, that made sense. I think before you debate anybody or discuss something, you have to say to them, do you mind being wrong? Now, that sounds like a loaded question, but someone that has an opposing view. And then they could say to me, Todd, do you mind being wrong? Right? Right. You get me so far? Totally. Okay, I think I'm saying this clean, so I'm going to go a little bit more here. Come on, get in there. Most people don't want to be wrong, including me, but as I get older, I evolve. But I know what it's like not to want to be wrong because I was like that in my first few relationships. You know, you realize you're wrong inwardly, but then outwardly you can still put up a big fight. You just don't want to be wrong. You have to say to yourself, to yourself, laying in bed, would I mind if my whole theory on this world, I had it wrong?

1:07:11 Like, you should be better. Can you get that out of somebody's mind? It's like a drug. It's very hard. But here's what I want to say. People go, Todd, would you mind being wrong? Of course I have to ask myself that. But I will tell you this, as cocky as it seems, Thank you. I think that all these problems come down to what you wanted to like. Well, what's the running seams of all of them instead of discussing this issue or that issue? There seems to be a running pattern in the world that there's people that want to do things a new way and there's people that want to keep it the same. Right. It doesn't matter how far back you go. Any social issues or even like I love to say, picking up your dog shit. Nobody wanted to pick up their dog shit.

1:07:51 Nobody wanted non-smoking restaurants. So there seems to be a theory of, not a theory, something that happens where there's a certain group of people, should women be allowed to do this? There's a certain group of people that want to try it the new way, and there's certain people that want to keep it the way it is, go back to this, go back, go back. But it seems history writes that the new way is better. Now, you can't decide that if we're looking at topics on hand, but if you go back to even ask people now, go, hey, well, let's see, you know, if they're going to answer honestly. But if you go back to any of the issues of 30 years ago, try to get out of, you know, when it's not still in the chopping table, do you think, I always go to the same thing.

1:08:32 Do you think that women should be able to do any job they want? Most people are not going to go, no. Do you think black people should be able to eat with white people? Yes. Do you think that black children should go to school with white children? Yes. Do you think white people should have been able to marry black people? Yes. Do you think gay people, you think it's an illness, people are going to go, no. So it seems to be, if you want to be a betting man, it seems to be, in the midst of it, you think you're right, I think I'm right. But when things come, the side that wants to do it a new way seems to... you know, history writes that decision better.

1:09:13 That's true. Yeah. That is true. Now, that's in a moment in life where you have to want to, you know, you want to get out of your own way. If someone that's listening to this right now, that what I just said doesn't fit into what they believe, you at least have to pause and go, he is right. Yes. That is right. There's, I want to do it the new way, you want to do it the old way. And like I say, it doesn't have to be social. What's your take on tacos? i'm just kidding i'm just kidding no i i totally agree it does i think you cleaned it up i think yes we're we're we're viewing the future from the lens of the past and that's not how we should approach the future you're saying some people are some.

1:09:59 People seem to think that it was better back in the day yeah maybe for certain groups of people it was yeah right it was a simpler time. People go, oh, it was a simpler time. You had your youth. But this, you know. I get it. And also, I'll tell you one other thing. Can I go a little further? Yeah. Look, this doesn't mean that the people that want to go backwards or go backwards. It doesn't mean that they... Hold on, hold on. I got my thought here. They want to go backwards. They want to go backwards. But, oh, yeah, it doesn't mean that the people that want to go backwards, yes, I want to acknowledge what they do to these groups of people, that they're arguing for their rights and they make their lives hard, whatever group you want to talk about.

1:10:46 Right, right, right. But I'm almost done. Don't worry. But I will say this. They might put a stop on it. They might block it. They might. But they never stop anything. And I'll tell you how, why they don't. They never stop anything. Again, I could go through that whole list. Did they stop that? Can women, did they stop that? Hey, we still have a lot of work to do in all those categories, but they've never really stopped anything. Do we pick up our dog shit? Do most civil-minded people don't? Because back then, they didn't even modestly say, oh, why are we going to pick up our dog shit? I mean, I know it's the right thing to do, but still, no. It was like, you're a fucking lunatic. When we had non-smoking restaurants, oh my God, the world's going to shit. But they never stopped it. They never stop anything. They slow it down.

1:11:27 They make everybody's life out. They never stop anything. Do a joke. Think about that. Think about that. They never stop anything. It's almost like you say it like a bully. What the fuck does the other side ever stop? And that is because they bank that kids get dumber. And that is where they lose. Even if somebody on that side would have the acknowledgement, they go, maybe that's right. That's why we lose every time because we go, kids get stupid and stupid. No, they get smarter and smarter. And you thinking they're stupider is why you lose. Because if you were aware how brilliant they were, Maybe your fight would be different. I'm not saying I want them to win, but kids don't get stupider and stupider. People love to say that, oh, the kids today, the kids today.

1:12:10 They've been saying that for how many goddamn years? You should be embarrassed to say that even if you're right. It's such a boring conversation to hear kids get stupider. And there's people listening right now to your podcast, maybe even you, that will not go back to their lives. Look, I hope it does, and maybe I'm saying this so it does, that will change anything they think. It won't shame. Most people, it's like a drug. It might be to hear it now and go, yeah, I guess he has a point. I guess he has a point. Most people think kids get stupider the first time the kids have a different theory than them. Like Bill Maher. He goes, what happened when you used to go to colleges and these kids were forward thinking? And I sarcastically, with all the sarcasm in the world, want to go, Bill, when did you think that they weren't?

1:12:54 Because he's acknowledging, oh, they used to be forward thinking. I would do these shows. So let me ask you a question. Did you start thinking they weren't forward thinking when they disagreed with something you said? Instead of going, holy shit, these kids are disagreeing with something I say, they have an amazing track record of being on the right side of history. Maybe should I at least give them a fucking listen. And being quiet isn't listening. Just because you're shutting up while the other person talks doesn't mean you're digesting. Like me right now. Yeah, exactly. Now you asked me and I said it. No, no, no. You're right. You're totally right. I think you're completely right. The idea that the youth aren't smarter than the people who have already lived here is wrong.

1:13:37 And I think there's better ideas from the youth that we could actually, if we'd actually listen to, maybe it can help because it's the future. So it's an idea of being stubborn. We've got to stop being stubborn. We're stubborn. I always said it's your ego. I always said if cars, if automotive, like if a car had an ego, we wouldn't have fuel injections still. Because a car had an ego, you'd go to give it fuel injection. Nah, this carburetor's all right. If these teens had egos. Pretty good. And it just makes sense. I'm not saying all young people, by the way. Just because you see a young person that's stupid. What about when AI gets an ego?

1:14:19 Well, and you know what, even AI. There's also running patterns that you can look. You can, if we talk about what's good for, is AI good or is AI bad? On a good day, maybe you could make a better point than me and maybe you could win. I don't really know the answer. But I do know this. And if you pay attention to patterns, that's the way we cure diseases. We pay attention to patterns. There seems to be a history, again, 10 of these things that they thought were going to ruin dot, dot, dot. I think someone said, is it the Stenograph or the first record? What was that called? Phonograph. Phonograph. Phonograph. That was going to ruin the music business. I think like Andy Williams or an older performer said, it's going to ruin the music business.

1:15:04 There seems to be a running history of people that think TV is going to ruin the business. This is going to ruin business. And years later, it didn't. It didn't. So maybe this one will be different, but I can tell you when you go to make that decision, is AI going to be bad? Is it going to be the demise of the world? If you're a betting man and you just want to win money, like if someone goes in 30 years, what's going to happen? You know, you're probably going to be wrong. Even though if we argue about it right now, someone you could win on a Thursday, maybe I'd win on a Friday, if we just took it what we're dissecting on the plate right now. But if you go back and look at the history of it, with not minding, as you gather these facts, not minding if these facts don't, you know, come against what you think.

1:15:47 Look at all the things we thought were going to ruin kids or ruin this or ruin that. We usually have bigger fish to fry. And we usually don't look at the thing that really is the demise. You know, people thought Elvis moving his crotch around was going to be the end of the world. People really believe that. Like, now we're fucked. It's hard to believe that in anything. Oh, Todd's exaggerating. No, people were like, what the fuck is going on? Now go back at that year Go back at that year And look what was going on in the landscape of this world How we were treating marginalized groups And you go Elvis' crotch Really So I always say don't guess the problem What? You were telling me I was laughing at your joke Am I on the podcast? You're on the podcast I'm exhausted I had a clean I think I got everything out You did I Think you got it All I'll say one more thing. One more thing.

1:16:41 Yeah, okay. I swear. When I say the kids today are smarter, I'm not talking about every single child or everything. I should say young adult. I'm talking about the involved kids, the kids that are involved, the kids that are fighting for this or fighting for that. Sometimes they go about it wrong once in a while, but the issue, the issue that they're arguing, they're always right. They have an amazing track record of being right, but it doesn't look like it. You know, if you run a company and you're a CEO and you have an amazing track record, people listen to what you fucking say. Yeah. But because we're afraid of death, I think that's what it might be. I'm just taking a stab at it. We're afraid of death. And instead of talking about that in a real way to go, I don't want to die. I like it here. I don't really want to die.

1:17:27 So we come up with a Band-Aid for it. Oh, at least we were born at a better time. At least the kids today are dumber. At least music today. At least we were born when music was good. but at least we were born when comedy was good. That's a band-aid. You're right. Instead of saying, it's scary to die, and there's still good music. Speaking of death, what do you think of aliens? Do you think they're going to come after us? I have no idea. At least, you know, if I don't have an idea, I say it. Hey, so, guys. You know, I got one more thing. Okay. People, as much as I'm opinionated, I don't mind not weighing in on things. People don't really want the right answer. I think they want the answer that they, in their head, is right.

1:18:12 This brings us back to the first part of the podcast. That's why we're going to keep this episode. Right. Well, when it comes to social, when it comes to what people, you know, do you want what's right or do you want what you had in your head and you want that to be right? Do you mind being wrong? It goes, right. I'll give you an example. When we're talking about issues of today, what should we expose children to? What should we not expose children to? What's wrong with going, and I'm not even joking. There's a website, you can get this answer. You're going, what does Sesame Street think? Well, why Sesame Street? Well, wouldn't you agree that they have been on the right side of history, integrating different races and talking about things in an honest way. So what's wrong with going, I don't know what my stance on this is.

1:18:55 I want to go to someone that has a rich history of being ahead of their time and doing things right. I'm going to defer to Sesame Street. But again, that's not what people are looking for. You're looking for people that agree with you. I think the biggest drug that is the demise of society isn't prescription drugs. It's complacency. it's trying to get people to believe or get them to understand your view that you have this view that you go through life with it's wrong and it's like a drug it's very hard to yank them out of it because they believed it so long they don't want to be wrong it's like being on drugs just because you say hey I'm a drug addict or I'm an alcoholic that doesn't mean that's the start then there's a lot of work even if you were to go God what Todd said sort of made sense I think I might be that person he's talking about that doesn't mean there's not a lot of work ahead of you to change this adage you've been living with for such a long time.

1:19:56 If you want to hear these thoughts, if you think this podcast is interesting, think about when Todd's on mushrooms, the thoughts he has going through his head. Come on over to the Todd Glass Thanksgiving special. What's up, buddy? Can I tell you one more thing? My show that I'm doing in New York, now you might go, what? I'm not really talking about any social issues. I did on my last Netflix special. This one, by my own choice. Maybe my next one, I'll talk about social issues. I'm not talking about any social issues. I just wanted the show that I'm doing in New York and the show that I'm touring with right now. I just want, I mean, people can tell that I hopefully am progressive because of some of the, you know, you say things indirectly, even if you're not marching and waving a flag.

1:20:38 But yeah, I just want this to be for people to go out, have a good time, and sort of not deal with that. The only chunk I have in my acting. Second City, first week in November, come out to see Todd. Second City, the 7th to the 17th, 15 shows. And when one of your close friends is going to come to the first weekend. I forgot. Andy Frasco, baby. Am I still here? So glad you're going. And I love you to death. And I love Nick to death. And I'm so excited that you're going to be there. Really am. I was talking to Vinny the other day. And I'm like, I just love it. You know, I never get over our friendship. And then I just adore you. I love you, buddy. I miss you, Todd. I got to give Nick some attention. But I love you so much. Let me call you back in a little bit.

1:21:20 I'm going to text you. Okay, bye. Got to run. Sorry. Got to run. Got to run. So fucking funny. Todd Glass is the greatest, but I think he nailed it on the head. Yeah, I think in there. I actually agree with everything he said. I did. I dozed off a little bit. I was trying to get, when he gets into his, he's not breathing. He's just talking. It's impressive, actually. It's pretty impressive. He's really brilliant. He's a brilliant man. He's a brilliant man that I agree with almost all the time. You will check out the Todd Glass Thanksgiving special. That looks awesome. The mushroom is, mushrooms on ice, we call it. You're going to come to that this week here? What is it? What do you do for Thanksgiving? You go home for Thanksgiving. No, I already told you. My family doesn't do Thanksgiving. Come have Thanksgiving with us. Just got to make sure Julie's in Denver and then I can do it.

1:22:03 Okay. Bring her. I can't leave Denzel at home alone. You can't leave Julie. Yeah, I can. She doesn't care. All right, guys. I think we nailed it. I think we nailed it on the head today, right? It was a great podcast. We're getting worried. It was getting a little sad. But now this is an informational podcast. Yeah. We learned a lot today. We learned about the music industry. We learned about aliens. Tech guy stuff. Tech guy, AI stuff. And then Todd Glass to put a bow on it that- A quick 20 minutes. The future isn't as scary as we think it is, because we have to believe in the youth that they're going to take care of it. So I believe- The past is much scarier in the future.

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