Before we get to Rodrigo y Gabriela, Andy and Nick go down a rabbit hole about Charlie Crockett, outlaw country, authenticity, and whether artists change who they are to sell more records.

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Then Gabriela joins us for a great conversation about leaving Mexico to busk in Ireland, becoming friends with Damien Rice before *O*, playing secret coffee shop shows together, their thrash metal beginnings, traveling Europe with almost no money, recording with Marty Friedman, and why staying curious has been the key to a 25+ year career.

We also talk about:

* Busking on Grafton Street
* The Irish music scene in the late '90s
* Why metal exploded in Mexico
* Creativity vs. chasing success
* Touring, travel, and finding your own path

Enjoy.